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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Uh, I think I just said that the PPACA has not been implemented yet....so it is pointless to ask for "results".You just fulfilled my prediction.
    You stated that UHC Has reduced costs yet haven't backed that statement up so apparently that is an opinion and should be stated as such. The MA study disagrees with you as obviously this is another liberal success story and just think rather than the state implementing it we have federal bureaucrats implementing it for over 312 million Americans.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sure I am, spent 35 years in the business world and understand that results trump rhetoric. Certainly that is the way you feel and have the sites memorized that show those excellent Obama results that warrant your support?
    obama has done far more then this current congress has.

    and many of His accomplisments- the first successful attempt at passing a bill attempting to reform the health care system, the fact the GM and Chrysler are still in business, pulling our troops out of Iraq, The creation of the consumer financial protection bureau, the elimination of Osama bin laden, ending the discrimination of gay's and lesbians in the military created by the policy of "Don't ask don't tell" Overturning DOMA- are derided as failures or criticized by conservatives.

    and there are many things that obama wants to accomplish-Immigration reform, economic equality for women, environmental protection- that are being stonewalled By conservatives in the house and senate because they oppose such liberal goals.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Baloney. I see liberals on a daily basis that will break down into spasms at the mere mention of Sarah Palins name. You guys would prefer we run guys like McCain and Graham, the kind of guys that are the first to cross the isle and "compromise" the first to turn like sharks on their own party. You can build these guys up as the "logical" and "moderate" choice and then destroy them in the presidential elections when its proven that when given the choice between a Democrat and a wannabe Democrat people will choose the Democrat.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Unitedwestand13;1062362700]obama has done far more then this current congress has.

    and many of His accomplisments- the first successful attempt at passing a bill attempting to reform the health care system, the fact the GM and Chrysler are still in business, pulling our troops out of Iraq, The creation of the consumer financial protection bureau, the elimination of Osama bin laden, ending the discrimination of gay's and lesbians in the military created by the policy of "Don't ask don't tell" Overturning DOMA- are derided as failures or criticized by conservatives.
    you are right with the first statement as he definitely has played more golf and had family vacations while not calling Congress into session to negotiate a budget which we haven't had in the last four years.

    Successful attempt to pass UHC that is vastly unpopular and a job destroyer as evidenced by the employment numbers which obviously you ignore.

    GM owes the taxpayers over 20 billion dollars and Chrysler is owned by the Italians. Congrats liberals and Obama. But on the positive note the unions own GM and the bond holders got screwed.

    Pulling the troops out of Iraq is quite an accomplishment especially since Bush negotiated that removal with the status of forces agreement in 2008 so yes, Obama executed and then left Iraq exposed with no footprint there.

    Yes, congratulations on getting bin Laden, glad to hear the war on terror is over. Better tell that to the Iranians, the Libyans, the Egyptians, and of course the home grown terrorists here

    I could go on but I am waiting for concrete results of those items that impact the economic conditions in this country and the sites that support your claim?

    and there are many things that obama wants to accomplish-Immigration reform, economic equality for women, environmental protection- that are being stonewalled By conservatives in the house and senate because they oppose such liberal goals.
    So what you are telling me is that there are many things he WANTS to accomplish but doesn't have the leadership skills to get the job done? Guess Obama is the only President ever to have to deal with the opposition party and of course those other Presidents all had filibuster proof Senates, didn't they? Please provide specific economic results not pipe dreams of results to come. Maybe you can explain why he has a 43% JAR so what do you know that 57% of the people don't?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You stated that UHC Has reduced costs
    Yes Con "Universal Health Care" has lower costs compared to the US private insurance regime.

    You still have not gotten the basic flaw in your original statement. The PPACA is NOT Universal Health Care. It is an expanding of the US private insurance regime.

    UHC is associated with health care in Europe, Britain, Japan, Taiwan....
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....you guys keep failing with trying to use Benghazi. It didn't work the first 784 times.....what makes you think the 785th is going to be the charm. Sorry Charlie....the American people are buying it....
    The guy they blamed for starting the attack, you remember, that movie that Hillary blamed but really had nothing to do with it. They just let him out of jail yesterday.

    If someone other than corrupt democrats investigated Benghazi heads would roll, heads other than Chris Stevens that is.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes Con "Universal Health Care" has lower costs compared to the US private insurance regime.

    You still have not gotten the basic flaw in your original statement. The PPACA is NOT Universal Health Care. It is an expanding of the US private insurance regime.

    UHC is associated with health care in Europe, Britain, Japan, Taiwan....
    LOL, How do you know what my costs are and what others are as well. Guess the people of MA got it wrong. I know the ER's are doing record business obviously at discounted prices. Love how you compare the 312 million populated United States with a 16 trillion dollar economy to Europe that is bankrupt. Got to love the liberal logic

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The guy they blamed for starting the attack, you remember, that movie that Hillary blamed but really had nothing to do with it. They just let him out of jail yesterday.

    If someone other than corrupt democrats investigated Benghazi heads would roll, heads other than Chris Stevens that is.
    Good luck with that...maybe you guys will get lucky the 786th time around.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    what i find ironic is that there exists a possibility that if there is a government shutdown, and obamacare encounters problems, people might blame the problem's or glitch in obamacare on the government shutdown rather then on obamacare, and Republicans might end up getting blamed for sabotaging obamacare by shutting down the government.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes Con "Universal Health Care" has lower costs compared to the US private insurance regime.

    You still have not gotten the basic flaw in your original statement. The PPACA is NOT Universal Health Care. It is an expanding of the US private insurance regime.

    UHC is associated with health care in Europe, Britain, Japan, Taiwan....
    Where to begin ... Obama himself calls it Universal Healthcare, but he does lie ... as for Ocare as an expansion of private insurance, why then is the US Government so in control top to bottom?
    Tell me ... would you call Single Payer private insurance too?

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