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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    His constituency will still remember the filibuster more clearly than the vote. His goal of gaining support from the right wingers was reached without his supporting a government shut down. It was a political win - win.
    Cruz already had the support of the right-wingers. His political stunt came across as silly, a complete waste of time and little more than political grandstanding/gamesmanship. When will right-wing Republicans realize that cowtowing to the wacko fringe of the party results in little political clout for them in the big picture.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Cruz already had the support of the right-wingers. His political stunt came across as silly, a complete waste of time and little more than political grandstanding/gamesmanship. When will right-wing Republicans realize that cowtowing to the wacko fringe of the party results in little political clout for them in the big picture.
    Its a double edge sword here. It might help him get through the primaries, but if he makes it to the big race this will only hurt him, the conservative base isn't enough to win the presidency. Sorry Ted!
    Could It Be Semantics Generating This Mess We're In?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by shagg View Post
    Its a double edge sword here. It might help him get through the primaries, but if he makes it to the big race this will only hurt him, the conservative base isn't enough to win the presidency. Sorry Ted!
    Thats what did Romney in. He gave up his principles and cowtowed to the right wing wackos to try to appease them to give him the nomination.....it screwed him in the GE.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thats what did Romney in. He gave up his principles and cowtowed to the right wing wackos to try to appease them to give him the nomination.....it screwed him in the GE.
    The conservatives didn't believe he was conservative.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The conservatives didn't believe he was conservative.
    That too. Nobody knew who he was anymore. Same thing that happened to McCain in '08.


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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If he thinks there is a chance, he'll run in 2016. Whether he will get the nomination, of course, depends on a lot of things that are outside of his control. They said Bush was "all hat and no cattle", yet he won not only the nomination, but the election, twice. and, according to his spinmeisters, he won't have voted to keep Obamacare, but to save the country from a government shutdown. as for being a "posturing pimpin' politician", is there another kind?
    BushII had a huge advantage over most other no cattle guys, he had a famous family with strong political connections. he won the election once and was awarded the election once, and without the award election there would have been no second election. He also didn't have to face a strong and self destructive Tea Party, but still have the last grand stand of the lockstep CON.

    Course BushII didn't make a pompass political stance only to retreat from it with a dozen pretenders to the throne watching.

    Funny thing about spinmeisters- they serve all sides of an issue, so it is foolish to claim only one bunch of spinners will be heard. Cut and Run is a most favored attack point by the radical right. I believe it will be used and it will be effective.

    Have to love the last line, first a noble man taking a noble stance- then is there any other kind of politician but the posturing, pimpin', puke....

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Cruz already had the support of the right-wingers. His political stunt came across as silly, a complete waste of time and little more than political grandstanding/gamesmanship. When will right-wing Republicans realize that cowtowing to the wacko fringe of the party results in little political clout for them in the big picture.
    It's hilarious when liberals try to tell conservatives what other conservatives are thinking about this or that. It always turns out like a blonde joke.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The conservatives didn't believe he was conservative.
    More likely the TP's didn't think he was their brand of ultra-CON. Which he wasn't but even in the General Election he couldn't run completely away from the Radical right wingnuts.

    He is a CON, just not a Radical one....

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    that hardly seems fair. We all have to pay premiums, but don't get medical insurance?
    Yes, an insurance co's dream come true, which explains why all the major insurers love O-Care.

    They know that it forces everyone to buy their policies, but at the same time, doesn't really mean they have to cover anything since they can always do what they're currently doing: deceive policyholders on large claims by saying that something isn't covered even if it is (a typical practice enabled by the fact that most policyholders don't have the $$ to take the insurers to court), or lobby the govt. to reduce its benefit obligations to make it practically worthless for policyholders in the case of large claims (i. e. surgeries, chronic illnesses, etc.).

    In other words, O-care fixes nothing. It simply keeps in place the fundamental problem--the health insurance oligopoly.

    The "logic" of O-care rests on the assumption that the govt. will regulate insurers on patients' behalf, but as everyone knows, a govt. compromised by lobbying cannot be an effective regulator.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The conservatives didn't believe he was conservative.
    Exactly my point. If he would have stuck to his principles and not tried to be all things to all people he might have won. Instead....he sold his soul to the right-wing fringe of the party.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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