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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    They should be forced to pee their pants or give up the podium. That's the American way!!

    Eh, he's a self-absorbed, ambitious jerk with delusions of future grandeur... which is what his grandstanding now is all about in the first place.
    Au contraire, there was actually zero political benefit for him to take such a stand. He did it because he believed it was the right thing to say--and he told the truth--the GOP pols in the Senate and House largely support Obamacare.

    He should commended for taking his stand. His arguments against Obamacare were overblown (i. e. it wouldn't hurt as many small businesses as he suggested), but O-care is still bad law, and needs to disappear.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Oh really? Even the moderate Republican, Matt Drudge who supported Romney last election, stated today that Cruz and Rand Paul are the new heart of the Republican party and also stated Chris Christie has an uphill battle to overcome this momentum.
    The chairman of the Republican National Committee released a statement that he supports Cruz's efforts to stop Obamacare and urged the fellow Republicans in the Senate to support his efforts. Reid says he had the votes prior to Cruz's efforts, we shall see if he still has them soon enough. It is going to take at least 5 Republicans to vote with the Democrats to meet Cloture to raise the debt ceiling and still fund Obamacare. Those 5 Republicans that vote for it, will be voting to end their careers as senators. That's a give me.
    Even if that were true, it doesn't mean anything, unless those pols whose careers were ended were replaced by someone that actually represented the voters' interests.

    And that won't happen, because the US is a plutocracy. Voters are only permitted to select from candidates hand-picked by insurance cos. that love Obamacare.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    Hey kids, a nonsequitur and a personal attack.

    But I'm glad you think emergency room treatment is an alternative to universal coverage. Great plan!
    O-care doesn't provide universal coverage. It only provides a universal requirement to pay insurance co. premiums.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    You're right, nothing like making an example of how politics should really be run like reading green eggs and ham on the Senate floor. WE APPLAUD YOU TED CRUZ.
    Eggs and ham are hard to come by these days at most restaurants in the US.

    What you will get if you order eggs and ham is a pasteurized egg combined w/partially hydrogenated oil, and a tiny piece of meat chock full of nitrites and preservatives, much like most GOP pols in Congress.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    And Politifact was wrong. They are not a sacred unbiased source.

    Thanks for clarifying
    I never said they were.... like all forms of media, they make some salient points; they make mistakes.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I know what your problem is.....a junior senator shed light on the failures of the Republican establishment to stand up against Obamacare. And just like the senators took it personal, so do you. And just like the senators used tactics such as using their staffers to trash Cruz or have their heavy lifters like Rove do it for them in a PERSONAL way, you too make it personal instead of looking at the failures within the party such as this appeasement mentality that results in one failed election after another. Like several Republicans in the Senate have forgotten they work for their constituents and find it annoying if they remind them of that, you too find it annoying. Most moderates do.
    Please explain to be how reading a childrens book on the Senate floor is standing up against Obamacare. His voting record seems to be very narrow, and there are very few things this guy actually likes. He voted against extending the Violence Against Women Act, against aid to those affected by Hurricane Sandy, and against the Student Loan and Affordability Act. Sounds like a great guy! Nothing like only rich people being able to go to college, forgetting the victims of a natural disaster, and voting against protecting women! He is standing up for America! We need an America that has their women back in the kitchen, let's people suffer when it isnt their fault, and where only wealthy families can afford college!
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    After hours on the floor, Ted Cruz read Green Eggs and Ham as a bedtime story to his girls who had been watching their daddy, yesterday on C-SPAN from Texas.




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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    His own party voted to end his filibuster.
    There was no filibuster just an awareness generated of how bad this bill is and how it is going to hurt the American people. Please explain to me why anyone would support a bill that exempts so many including the people who created it?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty? You obviously have never researched the Reagan record and buy what the left tells you. Why? You seem to be emotionally invested in liberalism and I don't understand it. When proven wrong, accept it, apologize, and move on. One of these days that light bulb is going to go off in that head of yours and hopefully the liberal elites haven't destroyed you completely before it does.

    I have you haven't you still reuse to back up your claims yet you expect everyone else to this is a debate, talking to you is like beating my head against the wall while arguing with a child! Typical Republican.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Please explain to be how reading a childrens book on the Senate floor is standing up against Obamacare. His voting record seems to be very narrow, and there are very few things this guy actually likes. He voted against extending the Violence Against Women Act, against aid to those affected by Hurricane Sandy, and against the Student Loan and Affordability Act. Sounds like a great guy! Nothing like only rich people being able to go to college, forgetting the victims of a natural disaster, and voting against protecting women! He is standing up for America! We need an America that has their women back in the kitchen, let's people suffer when it isnt their fault, and where only wealthy families can afford college!
    1. I don't know of any Republican that voted for extending the "Violence against Women Act". First off the law makes domestic violence a federal crime. That is unconstitutional. All states already have laws on the books to prosecute such crime and there is no mention in the Constitution that gives the feds such authority. 2. The wording in the bill has led to a more broader definition of domestic violence to include a man that raises his voice at his partner, calls her an offensive name, stalks her, causes her any emotional distress, or simply just annoys her can potentially be prosecuted under the VAWA. 3. This bill according to the CBO costs American taxpayers $660 million dollars a year to duplicate what is already covered in states laws in accordance with the 10th Amendment. 4. The real purpose of the VAWA is to shell out taxpayer dollars to liberal organizations that help elect Democrats which is why the reauthorization bill passed out of committee on a straight party-line vote. It's a scam but like so often one of the dishonest ways of politicians is to name a bill something in order to pressure their colleagues into voting for it. Supporters of the VAWA attempt to politically hurt those opposed to it by painting them as anti-woman or somehow in favor of violence against women just like you have done.

    Now about the student loan vote you make claim to.... It was not all federal student loans but a vote on continuing rates that were slashed in half two years ago for Stafford loans only. The average interest rate for a federal student loan is 6.8% but Stafford loans have been enjoying a 3.4% rate. The problem with many not voting for the bill is because the left side of the aisle wanted to extend the rate for a year without delving into the deeper issue of changing the way the government sets all of its student loan rates not just those for the subsidized Stafford loan. It needs to be reformed.

    All the things you mentioned are bad laws, whether they be unconstitutional, need reform, waste taxpayers' money etc. that originated with Democrats. But never fear there are always a handful of yellow bellied sapsuckers on the right side of the aisle that will lend their votes to the Democrats so they can reach Cloture and continue in the fecklessness.

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