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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Again, I wish people like you would move since you are so unhappy in this state.
    I wish anger filled blow hard people like you would move from my native State.

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    Don't you ever get tired or being lied to by liberal politicians?
    Don't you ever get tired of being lied to by politicians, PERIOD.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I wish anger filled blow hard people like you would move from my native State.



    The company you worked for did not you as a district manager.




    Don't you ever get tired of being lied to by politicians, PERIOD.
    You don't seem to be able to comprehend that it doesn't matter who offered the insurance to the employees although that person was me, less than 50% accepted the offer and we paid for over 80% of the cost a cost paid for by the customers of our business. You really don't have any idea how business works, do you? Who paid for your employee benefits?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    He seems to not understand senate rules, there will still be a procedural vote on the spending bill.
    Really? You think he has misunderstood what's going on and he doesn't know what the situation is? If that's what you think, you really don't know much about him at all. He probably knows the rules backward and forward, so I'm sure he knows exactly what is going on.
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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, not to rehash the 2012 campaign, but to straighten you out.... Romney did state that Jeep was moving "ALL production to China" AND imply in ads that Jeeps being built in China were at a cost of American jobs in Toledo. It was a lie.

    Romney Radio Ad on Jeeps and China in Toledo, OH - YouTube
    Romney Lies About Jeep - YouTube or whole speech, with critical words at 10:36 Mitt Romney Speech in Defiance, Ohio - 10/25/12 - YouTube

    Yes, the actual TV you showed was correct; its just the issues above the preceded it that set the stage for appearing that it was perpetuating an actual lie.
    How much googling did you do just to make the same mistake? Obama has said Republicans want children to starve children. We going to compare rhetorical campaign gloss now? The Romney ad was correct. Jeeps were going to be built in China. Politifact was wrong.

    Politifact themselves even stated that the Romney ad spoke "literal truth", yet you're still desperately grasping at straws trying to claim Politifact themselves are free from any deception. Clearly they are in this case and many other examples. They are not a credible source. They are biased libs, just like the rest of the MSM. Pushing an agenda and pushing propaganda for Democrats.

    Here is the ad 100% CORRECT. Hilariously it even cites Politifact

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P04q6jqE

    Maybe you should rely on your own brain instead of Politifact. Just sayin ...

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

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    You don't seem to be able to comprehend that it doesn't matter who offered the insurance to the employees although that person was me, less than 50% accepted the offer and we paid for over 80% of the cost a cost paid for by the customers of our business. You really don't have any idea how business works, do you? Who paid for your employee benefits?
    Still taking credit for what the higher ups made a decision on.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    What is clear is that no one actually wants to discuss the issue and instead appears to find joy in pointless and lame partisan unfunny humor. Each of those messages really are just shouting "I'm a sheeple who thinks what I'm told."

    Otherwise, the point of the fury appears to be that no member of Congress should do anything and any who try is insane, a troublemaker and a radical.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What is clear is that no one actually wants to discuss the issue and instead appears to find joy in pointless and lame partisan unfunny humor. Each of those messages really are just shouting "I'm a sheeple who thinks what I'm told."

    Otherwise, the point of the fury appears to be that no member of Congress should do anything and any who try is insane, a troublemaker and a radical.
    I don't agree with Cruz's methods, but I do give him props for standing up for what he believes is right. I wouldn't call him an obstructionist, considering this wasn't really what most have come to know as a filibuster.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Still taking credit for what the higher ups made a decision on.
    Still ignoring that less than 50% CHOSE not to participate?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Still ignoring that less than 50% CHOSE not to participate?
    Didn't ignore that in the first place:

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    Seems like Choice only matters when it comes to a liberals intent to murder their baby not when it comes to choosing insurance. .
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    Oh dear god you take some extra B-12 today?
    Quote Originally Posted by ConservativeI offered insurance to all my employees No your company did not you and less than half signed up. that was their choice, just like it is going to be their choice not to purchase Obamacare and pay the fine, then what?
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    You paid for it:


    In 2005, typical premiums for family health insurance coverage provided by private employers in the U.S. include an extra $922 in premiums due to the cost of care for the uninsured. In Texas, because of the very large percentage of uninsured, that figure is $1,551. By 2010, the national average will catch up to Texas' current figure; by then, the annual cost per Texas family will soar to $2,786.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    How much googling did you do just to make the same mistake? Obama has said Republicans want children to starve children. We going to compare rhetorical campaign gloss now? The Romney ad was correct. Jeeps were going to be built in China. Politifact was wrong.

    Politifact themselves even stated that the Romney ad spoke "literal truth", yet you're still desperately grasping at straws trying to claim Politifact themselves are free from any deception. Clearly they are in this case and many other examples. They are not a credible source. They are biased libs, just like the rest of the MSM. Pushing an agenda and pushing propaganda for Democrats.

    Here is the ad 100% CORRECT. Hilariously it even cites Politifact

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P04q6jqE

    Maybe you should rely on your own brain instead of Politifact. Just sayin ...
    You sure missed the point. I was not arguing with you about the ad you are speaking about. It was factually correct. It was, however, a walk back from a radio spot Romney ran in Ohio where he explicitly stated jobs were moving to China AND and a prior speech he gave in Defiance where he repeated something he heard that jobs were moving from Ohio to China. The ad he ultimately came up and that Politifact had a problem with threaded the needle between the truth and his prior representations.

    Romney Radio Ad on Jeeps and China in Toledo, OH - YouTube
    Romney Lies About Jeep - YouTube or whole speech, with critical words at 10:36 Mitt Romney Speech in Defiance, Ohio - 10/25/12 - YouTube

    Politifact took the wrong ad to make the right point.

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