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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Ted Cruz is the MAN

    What a contrast to see Harry Reid juxtaposed immediately afterward.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Yeah, ignore the intelligent, thoughtful leaders of the party and line up behind the big mouth idiots - that's a plan for success!! It sure got the Republicans control of the Senate the past two times, didn't it??
    Those so called big mouth idiots as you call them, changed the makeup of the House. If it wasn't for those "big mouth idiots" there would have been no stops in place to keep the Democrats and Obama from making all those "changes" they long for. Why it was because of a Democrat Congress and Obama in two short years that gave us Obamacare. In the Senate, Republicans won four seats held by retiring Democrats and Republicans defeated two incumbent Democrats during the last mid-term election thanks to the efforts by the Tea Party. This was the largest number of Republican gains since the 1994 elections and also the first time since that election that Republicans successfully defended all of their own seats. So you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That was addressed in about the 5th post. Cruz
    left the podium after 14 minutes, and came back
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    He also released the floor to Marco Rubio
    , who spoke for a while. Under the Senate rules in place for THIS debate, Cruz can take breaks.

    I am surprised you missed that.
    How do you know where Cruz went when the questioners were asking their questions? Or that he actually left?
    And he said he wasn't releasing the floor ... you know different?

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Yes then why are we almost last in every catagory. We have been down this road before and you have been proven wrong time and time again. We are a service economy period. Most minimum wage jobs created. Lol try again
    Last in what category? Keep buying the liberal lies and ignore the facts. You really shouldn't be talking about issues you don't understand. No matter how many times you claim it the State of TX has the highest number of FEDERAL minimum wage jobs not actual minimum wage jobs but that fact escapes you. California has three times as many people making California minimum wage and you try living on $8 an hour there. Better tell that to the Fortune 500 businesses moving to TX that we are simply a service economy unless of course you mean the medical profession being service.

    By the way you have yet to prove me wrong on any issue.

    I have traveled all over the country in my business career, moved to TX in 1992 and unlike you, I appreciate what I have here. This was the best move of my life.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Speaking of health insurance and of Texas' 25.7% uninsured rate This is What the TMA has to say about it:

    Medical Impact of Lacking Health Insurance

    The uninsured are up to four times less likely to have a regular source of health care and are more likely to die from health-related problems. They are much less likely to receive needed medical care, even for symptoms that can have serious health consequences if not treated. About one in four Texans lives at or below the poverty level; for children, it's nearly one in three. Extending health coverage to the uninsured could improve their overall health by 7 to 8 percent. Lack of insurance increases their dependence on Medicaid.

    Financial Impact of Texas' Uninsured Crisis

    Lacking a medical home, uninsured people tend to look for health care in the emergency room, the most expensive setting they could possibly choose. Nationally, patients made over 123 million emergency room visits in 2008. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that about 8 percent (9.9 million) of ER visits are for non-urgent issues that could be treated in a doctor's office or clinic.

    Using Medicaid payment rates and data on Medicaid patients' unnecessary emergency room visits, the Legislative Budget Board estimates that a condition that could be treated in a doctor's office for $56.21 (including lab and x-ray) costs $193.92 in the emergency room. National studies back up that data, finding, for example, that the charge for treating an ear infection in the emergency room is $170 versus $55 in a family physician's office.

    Taxpayers, Texans with insurance, and employers who offer health benefits also pay extra for caring for the uninsured. Families USA estimated the total cost for Texas in 2005 to be more than $9.2 billion. Of that:

    The patients and their families pay about half ($4.6 billion);
    Government health programs pay one-sixth ($1.6 billion); and
    Those with private health insurance subsidize the remaining third ($3 billion).
    Texas hospitals spent about $208 million treating uninsured trauma patients in 2003. To cover these costs, hospitals charge insured patients higher prices, which in turn drives up insurance premiums. In what Families USA calls a "vicious cycle," those increased costs are added to already-rising health insurance premiums, leading more employers to drop coverage, and leaving even more people without insurance. That further adds to premiums for the insured and further boosts the roles of the uninsured.

    In 2005, typical premiums for family health insurance coverage provided by private employers in the U.S. include an extra $922 in premiums due to the cost of care for the uninsured. In Texas, because of the very large percentage of uninsured, that figure is $1,551. By 2010, the national average will catch up to Texas' current figure; by then, the annual cost per Texas family will soar to $2,786.

    - See more at: The Uninsured in Texas

    But we all know you really don't care about Texas or its citizens.
    Seems like Choice only matters when it comes to a liberals intent to murder their baby not when it comes to choosing insurance. I offered insurance to all my employees and less than half signed up. that was their choice, just like it is going to be their choice not to purchase Obamacare and pay the fine, then what?

    The liberal rhetoric being concerned about the lack of insured is misguided at best and nave at worst. Since insurance costs are bourn by the citizens of the state not the federal taxpayers it is a state issue not a Federal issue unless of course all you want to do is give the federal bureaucrats more money to waste.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Seems like Choice only matters when it comes to a liberals intent to murder their baby not when it comes to choosing insurance. .
    Oh dear god you take some extra B-12 today?

    I offered insurance to all my employees No your company did not you and less than half signed up. that was their choice, just like it is going to be their choice not to purchase Obamacare and pay the fine, then what?
    You paid for it:


    In 2005, typical premiums for family health insurance coverage provided by private employers in the U.S. include an extra $922 in premiums due to the cost of care for the uninsured. In Texas, because of the very large percentage of uninsured, that figure is $1,551. By 2010, the national average will catch up to Texas' current figure; by then, the annual cost per Texas family will soar to $2,786.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You my want to be careful before referring to others as idiots...
    You *may* want to be more careful when advising others to be more careful
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That was addressed in about the 5th post. Cruz left the podium after 14 minutes, and came back. He also released the floor to Marco Rubio, who spoke for a while. Under the Senate rules in place for THIS debate, Cruz can take breaks.
    It's not just for THIS debate. Rand Paul relinquished the floor for others multiple times throughout his fillibuster.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Ted Cruz is the MAN

    What a contrast to see Harry Reid juxtaposed immediately afterward.
    You are right. Cruz is a man, just not a successful politician. Reid will get the votes, Cruz will get hoarse.

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    Re: Ted Cruz launches faux filibuster as Senate readies spending bill vote

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Oh dear god you take some extra B-12 today?



    You paid for it:


    In 2005, typical premiums for family health insurance coverage provided by private employers in the U.S. include an extra $922 in premiums due to the cost of care for the uninsured. In Texas, because of the very large percentage of uninsured, that figure is $1,551. By 2010, the national average will catch up to Texas' current figure; by then, the annual cost per Texas family will soar to $2,786.
    Again, I wish people like you would move since you are so unhappy in this state. I OFFERED MY EMPLOYEES health insurance and less than half chose to participate because most are invincible people over the age of 21. You seem to miss the point that insurance was offered and refused, just like you refuse to accept the reality that those younger people are going to pay the fines and not buy Obamacare, then when?

    By the way, my customers paid for it and yet people still refused to accept it

    Don't you ever get tired or being lied to by liberal politicians? What possible benefit could people get from Obamacare having to wait in the ER's for service because their doctors don't accept obamacare insurance? Thought we could keep our doctor and insurance plan if we wanted to. Obama lies don't resonate, wonder why? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

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