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Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

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MaggieD said:
They were suspended, not expelled. Read the story. The headline is bull****.
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Forum rules require me to post my thread title EXACTLY as the source title. I wish often that I could edit it. At any rate, if your taking expulsion to mean he can never return to that school then of course no, it's for the remainder of the school year. Considering school just started, that's a year and feels like expulsion to the parents as they said. But THAT aside. Suspended for the rest of the school year, which is essentially the whole year on a WEAPONS/FIREARMS CHARGE. Yet the debate keeps focusing on whether or not kids should play with toy guns. That's a legitimate debate on its own. It's just not the op topic.
 
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Tucker Case said:
OMG!!!!!! If you don't like what I'm posting, then slap on some ****ing balls and ignore it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'll leave that for the moderator, tough guy.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Calm down. Jezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:doh
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He's going to pull out his airsoft and shoot you any moment now.
 
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CRUE CAB said:
This is not a 2A issue. Junior airsoft commando is a minor.
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She said "Nobody" should have the right

Reading comprehension is your friend
 
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CRUE CAB said:
This is not a 2A issue. Junior airsoft commando is a minor.
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Junior airsoft commando? why are you now making up titles to place on the kid? Let me ask, do children have rights?
 
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Tucker Case said:
Is this the toy version or the replica version? There seems to be a conflict with regard to the description.
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The replica stuff is generally more expensive then most adults would buy for their children. They use it for realistic training. I know I wouldn't buy ma children a replica for the simple fact they look very close to the real thing that you have examine them a bit to discern them. The first glace will fool you generally. Most of the stuff sold as toys have very little initial velocity with their projectiles. There is a reason by the way that bullets are made with dense material and that is velocity retention. That's why airsoft pellets are generally safe except for extreme stupidity, 6 and 8 mm hollow plastic sphere don't hold velocity at all. Paintballs in my opinion are more dangerous.
 
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The simple facts are, like it or not, agree with it or not, that community has a law against most uses of airsoft guns and these children were in violation of that law. The school is involved because it is the school that is held responsible when something happens at a school bus stop.

Even the local police confirm this. They generally don't look to enforce unless the airsofts are not being used responsibly, but they were not being used responsibly in this case. Not to mention the OP recalls that just a couple days prior police had been called and the children likely warned.
 
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This should be no business of the school's. They should have no ability to suspend these kids for possessing such a weapon at home. Even if it were a real rifle, they shouldn't have any say. It was not on school property. It was on private property. Even if the use was irresponsible (and since two other kids did get shot, it must have been), that doesn't justify any action by the school. It would be the other boys' parents' place to take any action they wished if harm was done.
 
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roguenuke said:
This should be no business of the school's. They should have no ability to suspend these kids for possessing such a weapon at home. Even if it were a real rifle, they shouldn't have any say. It was not on school property. It was on private property. Even if the use was irresponsible (and since two other kids did get shot, it must have been), that doesn't justify any action by the school. It would be the other boys' parents' place to take any action they wished if harm was done.
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Not suspended, expelled. They were removed from the school permanantly.
 
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Mason66 said:
Not suspended, expelled. They were removed from the school permanantly.
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Reread the OP, they were suspended, not expelled.
 
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clownboy said:
Reread the OP, they were suspended, not expelled.
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YOu are right. Shame on Montecresto for putting the Word expelled in the title of the OP.
 
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Tucker Case said:
Where did you get the incredibly stupid idea that airsoft = nerf.
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I didn't.. Cap guns, nerf guns, video games.. Hell whatever ___________ Insert liberal do-gooder mentality here, and you get the picture. Personally I wouldn't allow my kids to shoot each other with any toy that shoots a projectile at any amount of speed, even though me and my friends shot each other with pellet guns back when we were kids, I consider myself very lucky I didn't lose an eye. My oldest son when he was 5 almost lost an eye to a foam disk shot out of a nerf gun. He had to wear a patch for a week. As to the OP, school shouldn't be in the business of policing things outside of their control no matter how much sense it might seem to make. That's the problem in this nation, there are too many people that think they should be in someone's business. It's supposed to be a free country and was pretty much while I was growing up, but more an more the places where we are free are dwindling. That doesn't seem like a direction worth pursuing if our ultimate goal is to continue being free..

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They suspended these kids over a fricken TOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's a link to what these kids were shooting. Any of you defending the school think now they should be suspended???
Amazon.com: Zombie Hunter Destroyer Kit 2 Guns + 2 Sets of 400 BBS: Toys & Games

Lord love duck. The stupidity of the administrators, makes me wonder if they will drown themselves looking up into the rain.
 
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Mason66 said:
Not suspended, expelled. They were removed from the school permanantly.
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That is simply still a technicality and doesn't matter to what I said. Their suspension is of a length that it will severely harm their record. The school should have no place punishing these kids at all for their actions because it wasn't on school property at all.
 
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lizzie said:
Seriously? A firearm? That is insane. Even pellet rifles, which can cause more injury aren't classified as firearms. Seems way over-the-top.
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Actually under certain state codes a firearm could include airsoft and paintball guns. I know NY specifically defines a firearm as something that propels a projectile capable of doing harm by explosive3, air, or force. The code is actually found under the environmental section of the laws and can cause a lot of problems. Technically according to such a definition your arm could be considered a firearm.
 
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j-mac said:
True enough, and that is what I read also...However, this case the school took action I think outside their jurisdiction.
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J-mac

This is rare but I 100% agree with you. Just read the story and saw the video twice just to make sure I wasn't missing anything here. Why is the school getting involve with something that happened on private property? If the boys were shooting at the bus stop, then I would have to understand the school getting involved. I agree with Maggie as far safety is concern, but I have to lean to the right a little on this issue because I think the school over step their boundaries.
 
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roguenuke said:
That is simply still a technicality and doesn't matter to what I said. Their suspension is of a length that it will severely harm their record. The school should have no place punishing these kids at all for their actions because it wasn't on school property at all.
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I think it is a trend that will continue. Everybody wants to be important and they will overreach but a parent like this should sue and make it as public as posible that the school had no right to do what they did so maybe next time the school will think twice about trying to run private citizens lives.
 
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Here's from the wiki:

This is also the case for the laws in each state. However, in some major cities and population centers the definition of a firearm within their respected ordinances includes propulsion by spring or compressed air, thus making airsoft subject to applicable laws. For example, airsoft guns within the state of California can only be bought by a person above the age of 18. However, no laws indicate an age requirement to sell airsoft guns. The seller must only verify that the buyer is 18 or older. A gun has to have an orange tip during shipping.

Legal issues in airsoft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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If I read the story correctly at least one of the kids is named "Carballo". If they were being smart about this they would claim that the kid is here illegally and he has to be educated under Plyler v Doe and sue the school district for racial discrimination.
 
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