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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

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    No, you're not in the twilight zone. My issue with this story is the firearms offense charge. When I was a kid, I shot a chinaberry in a slingshot, across the street, and hit a neighbor girl in the eye with it. I wasn't aiming at anything- just being a stupid kid. I don't think that slingshots should be considered firearms because kids can do stupid stuff with them. I think common sense is lacking. The kids in the original story need good parenting, and not legal charges.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    I wouldn't have a problem with my child being in the front yard shooting at a zombie target with an airsoft gun. The moment it was aimed at another child is where I would draw the line. Still not a school issue though.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Air guns in many states are now considered firearms by definition.
    According to wiki:
    Sale and possession of air guns are not regulated federally, nor are they regulated by most state and local governments. A few States and municipalities which do restrict or prohibit air gun sales or possession in some manner are San Francisco, New York City, Camden, New Jersey and Newark, New Jersey. Johnson City, Tennessee; Massachusetts, Chicago, Philadelphia, and the States of Illinois, Michigan[31] and California. Additionally, ordinances in many cities prohibit the discharge of air guns outdoors outside of an approved range.

    Some states, such as Virginia, classify a pellet gun or BB gun as a firearm. In Virginia, certain case law has determined that, during certain criminal conduct, air guns are firearms.

    Air guns were banned in San Francisco, but a state preemption statute struck down the ban, and the San Francisco District Attorney declared them legal as long as in compliance with state law.[32]


    Since I collect old German air rifles, I'm most definitely not moving to Virginia.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, you're not in the twilight zone. My issue with this story is the firearms offense charge. When I was a kid, I shot a chinaberry in a slingshot, across the street, and hit a neighbor girl in the eye with it. I wasn't aiming at anything- just being a stupid kid. I don't think that slingshots should be considered firearms because kids can do stupid stuff with them. I think common sense is lacking. The kids in the original story need good parenting, and not legal charges.
    I agree. A firearms charge is ridiculous. So many times I'm answering (as someone here pointed out) what I'd do or think as a parent in a situation like this. This parent, instead of saying, "Yeah, my kid had no business shooting where he might hit another kid," says "It's unfair!" Jesus H. Christ.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    I wouldn't have a problem with my child being in the front yard shooting at a zombie target with an airsoft gun. The moment it was aimed at another child is where I would draw the line. Still not a school issue though.
    I have no problem with that. If it's not a school issue, it's law enforcement's issue. Which would YOU rather? He was shooting right around the school bus stop. (Second time, by the way.) If my kid had to go to the ER because he got hit in the eye by a plastic pellet while waiting for the school bus -- by a kid waiting for the school bus -- I'd have no problem at all with the school stepping in.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    I thought the article said he was 70 yards from the stop? That seems like a reasonable distance to me. If my kid gets hit in the eye while waiting for the school bus, that is still an issue between me and the other parent. But I can see what you mean. I guess I would have to have a better visual of the bus stop to make a more accurate decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I have no problem with that. If it's not a school issue, it's law enforcement's issue. Which would YOU rather? He was shooting right around the school bus stop. (Second time, by the way.) If my kid had to go to the ER because he got hit in the eye by a plastic pellet while waiting for the school bus -- by a kid waiting for the school bus -- I'd have no problem at all with the school stepping in.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.


    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

    During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

    Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

    The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

    Aidanís father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


    WAVY - Has zero tolerance gone too far | WAVY.com | Virginia Beach
    Forgive me here. Perhaps my knowledge of the insane anti-logic behind the average petty bureaucrat's thought processes is fundamentally lacking in some regard, or it might simply be the case that I am ignorant of the inane laws which make their flagrant abuses of undeserved power possible.

    However, could someone kindly explain to me how in the Hell a school gets away with expelling a person for something done on their own private property? wtf.gif

    It makes absolutely no legal or practical sense whatsoever.

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    It's at times like these I thank God I was homeschooled. Is it any wonder that my generation turns out so many clueless big government worshipping sheep when this is the kind of behavior they were raised to expect from people in positions of authority?
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

    Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.
    Could you blind them? I seriously doubt it. It could probably cause some soft tissue injury or swelling, but I would be surprised if it could actually blind a person.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Really? Well, maybe I don't understand what an airsoft gun is. I understand it shoots plastic pellets using compressed air. If you hit someone in the eye with one, can you blind them? If you can, then it has no business EVER being aimed at a human being. Nor being shot anywhere someone could accidentally get hit with it.

    Sometimes I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.
    It's basically like a paintball gun. It can be dangerous if used improperly, but is generally harmless so long as the proper safety precautions are taken.

    Masks, or some other form of eye protection, are generally required if you're going to play on any kind of professional course.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    And so the point here is getting expelled for the rest of the school year on a firearms charge. Yet what keeps being discussed is whether or not children should have and use an airsoft.

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