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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    There were no kids shot at a bus stop. Even if there were this did not happen at school and an expulsión is to protect other children on school grounds. This expulsión does not stop them from doing the exact same thing again, so what is the point of the expulsión other tan for the school to flex muscle they shouldn't have to flex.
    Well, I really don't know. I'm just saying if these kids have a history in school of being troublemakers, perhaps that's why this was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, I really don't know. I'm just saying if these kids have a history in school of being troublemakers, perhaps that's why this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
    The thing is, is that I didn't see anything in any reports that the kids were any trouble at all at school. This happened in the kids front yard and the school wants to stretch its arms to said front yard which it should not.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The thing is, is that I didn't see anything in any reports that the kids were any trouble at all at school. This happened in the kids front yard and the school wants to stretch its arms to said front yard which it should not.
    Well if they are shooting AT kids (regardless of whether they actually shot them or not, I mean REALLY ) while waiting for a school bus to pick them up, then I don't find it all that outrageous that the school would want to be involved.

    I can see your point about private property and all, but that doesn't mean you can shoot toy guns at people either. Those pellets DO hurt. They can break skin and get imbedded in your body too.

    Perhaps when the school got the report about the incident, they should have left it to the police, but I don't know what the school's jurisdiction would include when it comes to bus stops.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well if they are shooting AT kids (regardless of whether they actually shot them or not, I mean REALLY ) while waiting for a school bus to pick them up, then I don't find it all that outrageous that the school would want to be involved.

    I can see your point about private property and all, but that doesn't mean you can shoot toy guns at people either. Those pellets DO hurt. They can break skin and get imbedded in your body too.

    Perhaps when the school got the report about the incident, they should have left it to the police, but I don't know what the school's jurisdiction would include when it comes to bus stops.
    There were no kids shot at the bus stop. The report said some kids were onthe way to the bus stop, if you believe what the kids said. As it has been pointed out, it would have taken a miracle for a kid to have gotten shot so far away from the kids front yard. The pólice were called and they found there was no case there but the school acted anyway.

    If a kid had been shot, there would have been something done by the pólice.

    I will believe the pólice over a kid that says he got shot any day.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    There were no kids shot at the bus stop. The report said some kids were onthe way to the bus stop, if you believe what the kids said. As it has been pointed out, it would have taken a miracle for a kid to have gotten shot so far away from the kids front yard. The pólice were called and they found there was no case there but the school acted anyway.

    If a kid had been shot, there would have been something done by the pólice.

    I will believe the pólice over a kid that says he got shot any day.
    I said shooting at, regardless of whether someone was shot.

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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well if they are shooting AT kids (regardless of whether they actually shot them or not, I mean REALLY ) while waiting for a school bus to pick them up, then I don't find it all that outrageous that the school would want to be involved.

    I can see your point about private property and all, but that doesn't mean you can shoot toy guns at people either. Those pellets DO hurt. They can break skin and get imbedded in your body too.

    Perhaps when the school got the report about the incident, they should have left it to the police, but I don't know what the school's jurisdiction would include when it comes to bus stops.
    Sorry Crissy but your premise is not what the op article said.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well if they are shooting AT kids (regardless of whether they actually shot them or not, I mean REALLY ) while waiting for a school bus to pick them up, then I don't find it all that outrageous that the school would want to be involved.

    I can see your point about private property and all, but that doesn't mean you can shoot toy guns at people either. Those pellets DO hurt. They can break skin and get imbedded in your body too.

    Perhaps when the school got the report about the incident, they should have left it to the police, but I don't know what the school's jurisdiction would include when it comes to bus stops.
    It still isn't the school's place to take action that has no bearing on the students' academic behavior or behavior at school. It didn't even happen in a place that the school could be held legally liable. In fact, if the school were to be taken to court by a parent of one of the students "shot" by the rifle, their first/main defense would be that it did not happen in a place of their jurisdiction or responsibility. It didn't happen on school property at all nor even at the bus stop, but on private property. Any lawsuits would have to be against the property owners/parents of the shooter(s).
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It still isn't the school's place to take action that has no bearing on the students' academic behavior or behavior at school. It didn't even happen in a place that the school could be held legally liable. In fact, if the school were to be taken to court by a parent of one of the students "shot" by the rifle, their first/main defense would be that it did not happen in a place of their jurisdiction or responsibility. It didn't happen on school property at all nor even at the bus stop, but on private property. Any lawsuits would have to be against the property owners/parents of the shooter(s).
    Well, from what I read it's one person's (or group of people - whatever) word against another's, as far as where the incident took place. I don't know if anything has actually been settled in this case, so I don't know if any of us know what actually happened. I'm just saying that if it did take place a bus stop, that could be considered the school's jurisdiction, I'm not sure.

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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sorry Crissy but your premise is not what the op article said.
    Yes, I misread, and thought it said that they were shooting towards a bus stop. When I think it meant they were just present at a bus stop. Who knows, and I was just making a comment about jurisdiction of the school basically.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, from what I read it's one person's (or group of people - whatever) word against another's, as far as where the incident took place. I don't know if anything has actually been settled in this case, so I don't know if any of us know what actually happened. I'm just saying that if it did take place a bus stop, that could be considered the school's jurisdiction, I'm not sure.
    Well, I personally don't think that schools should be responsible for anything that happens "at the bus stop" either, but that isn't the point. Their main defense would undeniably be "it wasn't at the bus stop" or "it isn't in our area of responsibility". The gun was not shot from the bus stop, whether the person claiming to be shot was there or not. This means it would not be the school's responsibility legally. They are overstepping themselves because the shooter happened to go to their school. I have no doubt that the school board doesn't even care if their was anyone shot, nor where they were shot, but only that the shooter was a student and they found out about it.
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