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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    He wasn't even AT SCHOOL - and he was expelled? Goddamn - how is that even LEGAL?

    Apparently we need to pass legislation that defines the limit of school authorities. . . and they did this without having to give legal justification? The suspension was bad enough.
    To be fair, there was confusion in the article and on the parts of the parents. They were suspended for a year, not actually expelled permanently.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Again, provide my some link or evidence that verifies your statement other than just you saying it if you expect me to buy that. Because on the surface it doesn't make sense. For example, if smoking in a public park is legal in a state but illegal to do "on school grounds", what you're saying is someone smoking in a park would be violating hte law if a teacher brought kids to the park because it suddenly officially becomes "School grounds". This makes zero sense. Without something to substantiate your claim other than "I was told this in a class" why should anyone believe it?

    As to the link you posted...yes, the SCHOOL states they feel their zero tolerance policy expands to private property. Note, that's not them saying that private property becomes "school grounds", but that they simply feel their zero tolerance policy extends anywhere. Beyond that, of COURSE the school is going to state they feel that their policy allows them to do what they did...they're not going to come out and claim they COULDN'T do what they did.

    For something you say there's "no debate" about, there's a hell of a lot of debate.
    Unfortunately for me, I can't find anything to back up my statement about school grounds being extended to where students are present.

    My instructor also told me that the Texas license fee was cut in half to $70.00. What I discovered was that that lower fee is only for indigent people. You must send in a tax form or other paper to prove that you are broke. How many indigent people can afford ammo now-a-days? lol!

    It looks like the parents of these two suspended boys might have a case. They'll never win it though. The education system is too powerfully lawyered.
    Maybe the outcome of this case will settle my "no debate" topic. I could use that right about now, but it will be years before it gets decided.

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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    To be fair, there was confusion in the article and on the parts of the parents. They were suspended for a year, not actually expelled permanently.
    LOL.

    Of course - flawed facts. Reporters and Journalists suck these days.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, in some peoples minds kids should use 'water wings', and stay in the shallow end of the pool until age 18 as well, but thank goodness those people don't have a say in the raising of other peoples children....It is up to the parents to determine what they think is safe for their own children on their own property, whether it is stupid or not is not up to you, or me.
    No, sorry. A parent may be able to decide what's best for his own children, but they aren't allowed to let their children endanger other children. Also, water wings are not comparable to weapons. Cars might be more comparable.
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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    No, sorry. A parent may be able to decide what's best for his own children, but they aren't allowed to let their children endanger other children. Also, water wings are not comparable to weapons. Cars might be more comparable.
    Still not up to you. Why is it that liberals think they need be involved in other people's business?
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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.


    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

    During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

    Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

    The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

    Aidan’s father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


    http://www.wavy.com/news/local/va-be...e-gone-too-far
    Fyi airsoft guns are not bb or pellit guns. Airsoft guns are made and intended for shooting at other people. Its a game.

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    Re: Boy punished for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    To be fair, there was confusion in the article and on the parts of the parents. They were suspended for a year, not actually expelled permanently.
    Thanks for that info. Can't always believe the MSM either.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well if this boy has a history of causing trouble, then maybe I could understand the actions of the school more. Of course we never know the WHOLE story, just what the media decides to tell us.
    Sincé when is it for the school to do anything when the kid is not a danger of any kind at school?

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Sincé when is it for the school to do anything when the kid is not a danger of any kind at school?
    When an out of control undisciplined child is shooting other children at the bus stop.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    When an out of control undisciplined child is shooting other children at the bus stop.
    There were no kids shot at a bus stop. Even if there were this did not happen at school and an expulsión is to protect other children on school grounds. This expulsión does not stop them from doing the exact same thing again, so what is the point of the expulsión other tan for the school to flex muscle they shouldn't have to flex.

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