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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Airsoft pellets don't go at "high velocity" unless you have high end stuff used for training and even then its velocities are less than a BB guns and more importantly the projectiles they shoot lose whatever little energy they have VERY quickly. The stuff sold as toys are just that toys. You really have to be trying to hurt yourself to get hurt with one of those. Like breaking it into a sharp object trying.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
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    This is rare but I 100% agree with you. Just read the story and saw the video twice just to make sure I wasn't missing anything here. Why is the school getting involve with something that happened on private property? If the boys were shooting at the bus stop, then I would have to understand the school getting involved. I agree with Maggie as far safety is concern, but I have to lean to the right a little on this issue because I think the school over step their boundaries.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    If I read the story correctly at least one of the kids is named "Carballo". If they were being smart about this they would claim that the kid is here illegally and he has to be educated under Plyler v Doe and sue the school district for racial discrimination.
    Except both were offerred alternative schools to attend during the longterm suspension. The boy you mentioned will be attending the alternative school.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Hey Maggie this is what they were playing with.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's all innocent fun until somebody puts an eye out.
    Spoken like a mom!

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    YOu are right. Shame on Montecresto for putting the Word expelled in the title of the OP.
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    Boy punished for air soft guns in yardLet's stop with this kind of stuff. Montecresto was following the rules which require the titles of threads in the *Breaking News* sections to exactly match the title of the article. These kind of comments need to cease

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Except both were offerred alternative schools to attend during the longterm suspension. The boy you mentioned will be attending the alternative school.
    Except, as far as I know the school district has the obligation to make sure that ALL children of school age are mandated to be in school, so it's not really an offer of anything....The parents should stick to their guns, and force the school to reverse their over the top action here.
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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I can't wait to see this defended. It seems zero tolerance should be for the real thing. Boys have been known to show up with real guns in back packs. No tolerance for that is appropriate.


    VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) - A seventh grade Virginia Beach student previously suspended for shooting an airsoft gun has been expelled, WAVY.com has learned.

    During a hearing Tuesday morning, Aidan Clark was expelled in a unanimous vote. The fate of Khalid Caraballo remains unknown at this time.

    Like thousands of others in Hampton Roads, Khalid Caraballo plays with airsoft guns. Caraballo and his friend Aidan were suspended because they shot two other friends who were with them while playing with the guns as they waited for the school bus.

    The two seventh graders say they never went to the bus stop; they fired the airsoft guns while on Caraballo's private property.

    Aidanís father, Tim Clark, told WAVY.com what happened next lacks commons sense. The children were suspended for possession, handling and use of a firearm.


    WAVY - Has zero tolerance gone too far | WAVY.com | Virginia Beach
    I'd just like to say that I can't remember a thread where my opinion was so highly disagreed with. But I'd like to restate my opinion to see if some have lost sight of the original thought.

    I think these airsoft guns are dangerous when not used with eye protection. Firing willy-nilly around a school bus pick-up point is stupid, at the very least. Dangerous at most. (One boy was running away and got hit...that's enough for me.) If it was my kid, he'd have the gun taken away for a good long time -- until he learned to respect the rules. Because I would most certainly have rules that one never shoots it when there is any chance a kid might be hit who isn't part of the game and who isn't wearing eye protection -- including my kid.

    I'd be furious that the school suspended him for using a "firearm". I would do everything in my power to get that amended to "replica firearm" which is, apparently, what these things are.

    While it may be over the top for the school to get involved, because it happened in or around a school bus stop, I can't say I'd blame them. That would be the least of my concerns if this was my kid.

    He could have blinded someone.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    As someone else stated, the school should not have been involved unless the incident happened at the bus stop. This was a matter for parents to resolve.

    That said airsoft guns can be very powerful. I have one that shoots over 550 fps but has had work done to it and quite expensive. The guns these kids had were rated at 350fps and I have serious doubts they are that powerful. Most come in out of box at around 275 to 300 feet per second. You would have to be real close to someone and I mean real close to do any real damage. 70 feet with that gun is too far away to do more than sting. The higher power guns are another story. I have seen severe eye injuries, teeth knocked out, and skin penetration that required removal of the pellet. The guns they had were typical spring style guns that lose strength over use. They are usually broken quickly as well. The more powerful guns are either gas, electric, or modified spring guns. These can be quite powerful.

    Bottom line is these kids should find a place designated for this activity. Some of these guns are very realistic looking and accidental shootings by Police are not unheard of. Shooting around in the front yard is not a good idea as people can walk into the game unknowing a game is in session.

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    Re: Boy expelled for air soft guns in yard

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Except, as far as I know the school district has the obligation to make sure that ALL children of school age are mandated to be in school, so it's not really an offer of anything....The parents should stick to their guns, and force the school to reverse their over the top action here.
    That's still the case here. The one boy's folks went with the alternative school offerred, the other is homeschooling. It's an "offer" only because the parents have other options to satisfy the law.

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