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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm saying when people have skin in a game for either side, they become biased and looking to prove THEIR version correct. Yes? Or do you think the oil companies are so honest that they would NEVER do a thing like that?

    I think Al-Gore is biased, but I hope you are not foolish enough to think the oil companies are not.
    Your probably right about Al Gore (and certainly about the oil co.) but do you have any idea what might be driving his bias? Because he was on this way back in the 70's as a junior senator.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Your probably right about Al Gore (and certainly about the oil co.) but do you have any idea what might be driving his bias? Because he was on this way back in the 70's as a junior senator.
    There's always been money in discoveries and history has shown those that come up first are usually rewarded for it. The drive to be the first (even though wrong), is a huge drive to bias. in today's world it seems people are more concerned about being first, rather than correct.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    There's always been money in discoveries and history has shown those that come up first are usually rewarded for it. The drive to be the first (even though wrong), is a huge drive to bias. in today's world it seems people are more concerned about being first, rather than correct.
    So you're saying that when Al Gore was a freshmen senator and was trying to get his snickering colleagues to address "the problem" he just had money on his mind?

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    So you're saying that when Al Gore was a freshmen senator and was trying to get his snickering colleagues to address "the problem" he just had money on his mind?
    I would add fame to that, but yes that is definitely a possibility.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    You are aware of corporates influencing presidential decisions? This is the case where corporates are influencing scientific decisions. Big oil companies would directly be hit if something like this starts being enacted against.

    So they thought instead of wasting their precious money for common good they choose the usual capitalistic way instead. How about keep the money and damn the rest of us instead.
    Sure! And researchers would get less money, were they to say: "No Problem!"

    There are lobbies on both sides and conflicts of interest and bribing and worse.

    So what do you propose? Spend the money and hope it wasn't wasted? I mean, we are talking not Hundreds of Billions. This is serious money.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I would add fame to that, but yes that is definitely a possibility.
    I personally have no idea what it was, but I can tell you this. It most certainly was NOT for fame. It was widely unpopular and Gore was dismissed at the time by his senior colleagues. But it remained a passion of his that he picked back up after he had gained name recognition and people would listen. I think possibly there is at least some sincerity to his work.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I personally have no idea what it was, but I can tell you this. It most certainly was NOT for fame. It was widely unpopular and Gore was dismissed at the time by his senior colleagues. But it remained a passion of his that he picked back up after he had gained name recognition and people would listen. I think possibly there is at least some sincerity to his work.
    I'm not saying there wasn't ANY sincerity in his work, but I think as it progressed ego took over and he tried to make it more than what it was. I believe he was quite biased when he announced it in the late 90s.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm not saying there wasn't ANY sincerity in his work, but I think as it progressed ego took over and he tried to make it more than what it was. I believe he was quite biased when he announced it in the late 90s.
    Ok, we'll short of being able to cite material proving Gore is in it for ego and money, there's little point of continuing. I do recall him being so excited that he was going to get to go to Washington and work with the very people that could effect a change and so disappointed when they dismissed him as naive and round faced. So if we're just going by "beliefs", I'm sticking with his likely sincerity, even if he is wrong.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The amount of carbon emitted by a volcano may not do it, but it does more than man kind and there are several volcanos in constant eruption right now. Why don't you tax them and leave man alone.
    I am afraid it is a joint volcano-car carbon gas venture that does it. But there are other anthropogenic gases that are far worse like methane. It is 10 times worse than carbon.
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Sure! And researchers would get less money, were they to say: "No Problem!"

    There are lobbies on both sides and conflicts of interest and bribing and worse.

    So what do you propose? Spend the money and hope it wasn't wasted? I mean, we are talking not Hundreds of Billions. This is serious money.
    The warmists MUST make this "problem" appear as catastrophic as possible not only to obtain funding for current research, but to make the eventual discovery that the next ice age is coming worth even more. That way the next generation of climate "scientists" will make more money and the future of the field is secure. It's already happened once in the other direction. This type of shenanigans is only possible in a field where the truth is hard to find and falsity is near impossible to scientifically disprove.

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