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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's not bogus.



    Well **** me sideways until Sunday, what a convincing argument!1!!!!111!! Heck, why should "I believe" not be taken seriously?!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!111111

    The coal/oil industries are known for propaganda. Think tanks with an agenda, like "The Heritage Foundation" are known for pushing their policies. Here's a link with a good collection of groups and think tanks that are big players Climate Change denial machine:

    Petroleum and Propaganda: The Anatomy of the Global Warming Denial Industry :: Monthly Review

    HAH! How did I know you would make that specious argument?

    Twist: Seimens manufactures coal fired power plants.... Your head asplode.

    You are simply a biased observer and have proved yourself to be so. You are quick to dismiss any conflict of interest on the side of Green technology ecause you assume them to be green and therefor virtuous, and then you assume that a traditional energy company is oure evil and untrustworthy.. even though they are the SAME FRACKING COMPANY*..

    There is no breaking through your entrenched biases.

    Notice that your linked book is making ominous insinuations of nefarious acts by Exxon Mobile because they spent $16million over the course of 7 years on organizations that aren't cheerleaders for AGW. This may seem like a lot until you consider that the US government alone spend $1.7 million a day, every day, 365 days on AGW R&D.. so they match 7 years of Exxon Mobile funding in just under 10 days.

    And tat is just the US Government. Not counting the UN, or Europe, or the legion of private funding sources like Greenpeace and Sierra Club.

    * - See what I did their?!
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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'[W;96]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Got a link? I've been looking for that!
    Sorry, I don't. It has probably been discontinues almost immediately after available anyway.

    One moment...

    I just zipped the folder to 125,847 KB. I just use a yahoo email account and don't know what my limit is. I can try sending it to you, or is there a place I can upload it here?

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Get a hold of this article, criticize it, and then we will talk:

    Christianson, G. (1999). Greenhouse: The 200 year story of global warming. Walker and Company
    Found the first chapter available online. Didn't peak my interest at all.

    I assume you own a copy. How about telling me where it disagrees with me and how. I assume you disagree with my points.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'[W;96]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Sorry, I don't. It has probably been discontinues almost immediately after available anyway.

    One moment...

    I just zipped the folder to 125,847 KB. I just use a yahoo email account and don't know what my limit is. I can try sending it to you, or is there a place I can upload it here?
    Depending on the format, something like drop box or google docs might work.

    edit: is this the one?
    Access: The “leaked” IPCC AR5 draft Summary for Policymakers | Watts Up With That?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    *sigh* How much money do you suppose would be spent on climate studies if there was no perceived problem?

    Hint: In 1988 The total spent on climate science was about $100 million in the US. It is now over $8 billion... or roughly a 8000% increase over 25 years. Do you suppose that climate scientists are eager to slash their budgets back to "no threat" level?
    Don't forget profit.

    Let's not forget that companies like Seimens, that make huge profits making wind power generation, solar, etc. It's natural that they want to support individuals (with grants) who will produce studies that promotes their products.

    You warmers claim big oil are those who deny AGW... Follow the money, and see who promotes the AGW agenda, and why.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'[W;96]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Depending on the format, something like drop box or google docs might work.

    edit: is this the one?
    Access: The “leaked” IPCC AR5 draft Summary for Policymakers | Watts Up With That?
    Sorry, it's not that. Besides, that article is only a few days old.

    I don't know if this is what I used, but this looks like what I downloaded:

    Full AR5 draft leaked here, contains game-changing admission of enhanced solar forcing

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Give me an example.


    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's not bogus.



    Well **** me sideways until Sunday, what a convincing argument!1!!!!111!! Heck, why should "I believe" not be taken seriously?!1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!111111




    The coal/oil industries are known for propaganda. Think tanks with an agenda, like "The Heritage Foundation" are known for pushing their policies. Here's a link with a good collection of groups and think tanks that are big players Climate Change denial machine:

    Petroleum and Propaganda: The Anatomy of the Global Warming Denial Industry :: Monthly Review
    You've provided your own example.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Found the first chapter available online. Didn't peak my interest at all.

    I assume you own a copy. How about telling me where it disagrees with me and how. I assume you disagree with my points.
    Well briefly it mentions that carbon is more widely spread than methane. But as I said, molecule for molecule methane is 10 times worse than carbon. I based my position on this assertion. Hence if you want to criticize my position you need to deal with that study first.
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Well briefly it mentions that carbon is more widely spread than methane. But as I said, molecule for molecule methane is 10 times worse than carbon. I based my position on this assertion. Hence if you want to criticize my position you need to deal with that study first.
    I already addressed this, but it looks like the problems experienced at this forum deleted that post.

    I already dealt with how that is wrong anyway. It's obvious you are having someone else tell you what to believe.

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    Re: U.N. Panel to blame mankind for global warming, explain 'hiatus'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I already addressed this, but it looks like the problems experienced at this forum deleted that post.
    I am trying to make people aware of other AGW gases like Methane. Prior to most of the posts here being deleted, did you read that other article of Jorgenson that I told you about?
    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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