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One man's ObamaCare nightmare[W:51]

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Thanks and the remaining 45 states are screwed, but that's good for you - that's how you socialist role - take from me and give to you. Thanks for your service, I suggest you look harder at the VA and maybe for the good of the rest of us you could move. I did.


Maybe good insurance exists in NYC (Downstate NY), but in Central NY there are no carriers other than BCBS Excellus. None. And I am being told in Upstate NY it's just as bad (I have friends in Rochester and Bufffalo). But Central NY - nothing. Even the farm bureau put me in touch with some company that wanted $2,000 a month with a pre-existing condition clause (USI Effinity). I live in a town where it's all farms, and every other farmer I know has no insurance. Since leaving the Air National Guard and becoming involved with the USAF Civil Air Patrol (I wanted to learn to fly), I lost my Tricare from Uncle Sam. I'm sure if I was in dire straits I could probably go to a VA hospital for care, but I don't think there is one within 150 miles of me. Obamacare will be a godsend to Central and Upstate NY.
 
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What do you mean your rates won't go down? Wasn't it not you spouting your beloved new rates? I'll have to go back to look - hate to imagine you calling yourself a liar.

Laughing, just wanted to show folks how highly partisan folks see only 'the other guy' as unbelievable. One issue a highly partisan person wants to believe then ANY claim is gospel. My personal account is of no account but any mouth breather can claim he used a firearm to defend himself and that is a hook, line, sinker deal... :roll:

Again Pappa john's meltdown is ignored and an 'I am told' undocumented story about what happened in what unnamed states has full faith and credit in the CON world. :doh

Now I live in Oklahoma, I doubt my insurance rates will go down, but what is covered might improve. I do know no Californian is going to be paying a slim dime on my bills so why all that noise is being puked up is beyond me.

But I do understand the need to create a strawman position to argue against when the real facts can't be discussed.... :peace
 
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Nope there it is; wow; here you say your rates have gone down thanks to the beloved ofailure you love so much, and yet in the last post you said your rates may not go down? Hmmm...and so what am I to believe - well you can imagine there is one thing I believe for certain - that' a lot of huey has been written here that is worthless to read.


My wife and I had Humana as private insurance- high deductible (5K), no on going health care issues, and no riders to cover the high deductible such as AFLAC.

550 a month.

We asked about a plan with riders to cover cancer and serious illness (the AFLAC style riders) well they claimed to not offer such but could put together a plan with other insurance carriers- 830 a month IIRC.

We now have a different company with riders, a dental plan, and a vision care thing.

343 a month.

You don't take the gubmint's word without question, why do you take Humana's as if it is the 11th commandment???? :confused:

Like Pappa John's and that Florida franchise owner of I think it was Denny's.... They claim one thing, but simple math shows they are just being petty, partisan asses....
 
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What do you mean your rates won't go down? Wasn't it not you spouting your beloved new rates? I'll have to go back to look - hate to imagine you calling yourself a liar.

take a chill pill Phil. What I said is my wife and i had humana and it had a for crap premium, poor coverage. We looked around for a bit and found a MUCH better policy with a MUCH lower premium and far BETTER coverage.

(psssstttt... the new ACA policies have not kicked in yet, my rate and policy are locked in for 6 months and then my wife and i will decide what to do.)

You REALLY are clueless about healthcare insurance, do you have any?

My point is Humana started us off a few years ago with an OUTstanding rate and we accepted a high deductible- because we can afford to pay out of pocket the 5K. But each quarter for the next two years seemed to be a rate increase, which they claimed was due to our insured pool, till we had enough and started shopping around.

when it comes to imagining other folks, so many CON partisans seem far more intent on that than actually seeing others in the real world. :peace
 
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Nope there it is; wow; here you say your rates have gone down thanks to the beloved ofailure you love so much, and yet in the last post you said your rates may not go down? Hmmm...and so what am I to believe - well you can imagine there is one thing I believe for certain - that' a lot of huey has been written here that is worthless to read.

A pretty sad CON game- where does it say the new policy has ANYTHING to do with the ACA which has NOT GONE INTO EFFECT yet???? :roll:

We got the new far better than what Humana had policy 3, THREE, months ago.

So Denial as the mailing address and CONvoluted thinking... for some ACA can't come soon enough... :peace

Do note you can't bring that laser eye and keen mind to focus on how unsubstaniated claims Humana, Faux Noise, and one policy holder have made.... ;)

(classic petty partisan hackery some would say)
 
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take a chill pill Phil. What I said is my wife and i had humana and it had a for crap premium, poor coverage. We looked around for a bit and found a MUCH better policy with a MUCH lower premium and far BETTER coverage.

(psssstttt... the new ACA policies have not kicked in yet, my rate and policy are locked in for 6 months and then my wife and i will decide what to do.)

You REALLY are clueless about healthcare insurance, do you have any?

My point is Humana started us off a few years ago with an OUTstanding rate and we accepted a high deductible- because we can afford to pay out of pocket the 5K. But each quarter for the next two years seemed to be a rate increase, which they claimed was due to our insured pool, till we had enough and started shopping around.

when it comes to imagining other folks, so many CON partisans seem far more intent on that than actually seeing others in the real world. :peace

i thought we wouldn't even be able to access actual premiums until Oct 1 anyway
 
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Most people think they have great insurance right up until the point they actually have to use it.

I have been using my current carrier for 20 years now, surgeries, eye and dental procedures, all great!
 
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that is not an argument, that is an unsupported statement of opinion.

the thread link supports the statement
 
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Typical misinformed partisan response. The act was based on a Republican Govs. healthcare reform that insured >98% of his State and met with large statewide approval. That's the irony of it all. I bet you even voted for him. You don't see Mass. residents wanting to repeal Romneycare do you?

It is Massafukingtusetts........damn the worship the kennedys like gods:roll:
 
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i thought we wouldn't even be able to access actual premiums until Oct 1 anyway

Well for some petty partisan hacks a lack of even basic knowledge in no way forstalls believing any old crap Faux Noise puts out there.

Like I said, if MSNBC did a fact lite crap piece claiming ACA would reduce costs and increase access those who suck up Faux Noise would howl in outrage...

What is amazing is my insurance company has not sent me a notice of rate increase, but like I said I had a Humana policy and i didn't like the way they kept raising rates on a very simple high deductible policy.

But hey, let's not let facts interfere with the ongoing CON game....
 
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Well for some petty partisan hacks a lack of even basic knowledge in no way forstalls believing any old crap Faux Noise puts out there.

Like I said, if MSNBC did a fact lite crap piece claiming ACA would reduce costs and increase access those who suck up Faux Noise would howl in outrage...

What is amazing is my insurance company has not sent me a notice of rate increase, but like I said I had a Humana policy and i didn't like the way they kept raising rates on a very simple high deductible policy.

But hey, let's not let facts interfere with the ongoing CON game....

I hear you. The ****storm of bad information that has rained down on everyone is mind-boggling, worse yet are those that stand out in the storm with their heads tilted back and their mouths wide open.
 
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Here is some partisan hackery for ya
The Explosion in Healthcare Premiums in One Convenient Chart | Independent Journal Review


A pretty sad CON game- where does it say the new policy has ANYTHING to do with the ACA which has NOT GONE INTO EFFECT yet???? :roll:

We got the new far better than what Humana had policy 3, THREE, months ago.

So Denial as the mailing address and CONvoluted thinking... for some ACA can't come soon enough... :peace

Do note you can't bring that laser eye and keen mind to focus on how unsubstaniated claims Humana, Faux Noise, and one policy holder have made.... ;)

(classic petty partisan hackery some would say)
 
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He is just one example of millions...Wake up and smell the roses.

So, if there are millions of examples you will have no problem producing 30 more.... which, you and I know you can not. So, I will settle for a single example that shows me that 10s of thousands are harmed.....

Though real national healthcare would be the rose, we will have to settle for Obamacare for the time being. Let's call it a carnation. It smells pretty good!
 
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Best line I've heard for a while on Jon Stewart: "Obama pacer is republican's Spring Time For Hitler. Republicans only win if it fails. What they are afraid of is that we will like it."
 
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It will never affect me..........As a retired military veteran I can always fall back on TRICARE for Life.
 
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---- yeah, but its different, its a benefit he needs....

And deserves. Everyone else are freeloading commies.
 
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Who pushed for it? Obama. Other options were available. If someone is getting hurt because of it, the finger must be pointed to Obama.

So when the GOP does it and calls it Romneycare it's OK but if the DNC does it and calls it Obamacare, then suddenly it's a big deal? Pfft.
 
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Thanks and the remaining 45 states are screwed, but that's good for you - that's how you socialist role - take from me and give to you. Thanks for your service, I suggest you look harder at the VA and maybe for the good of the rest of us you could move. I did.

I don't think I am taking from you to give to me. So far this year I paid $30,177 in federal taxes, $2,541 in medicare taxes, $10,602 in NY state tax, $1,650 in NJ state tax, and $9,452 in social security taxes. Now granted I will get some back due to Schedule A and having paid taxes through 2 employers (and no doubt a 3rd when I get another contract in a few weeks); but I have to assume the $80K to $100K I pay in taxes every year somehow entitles me to get something back. And since a bill paying screw-up cancelled my COBRA, I am looking forward to Obamacare. It has to be cheaper than Excellus Blue Cross Blue Shield trying to jack me for almost $2K a month and trying to say my wife's diabetes won't be covered. I'm thinking on October 1st that crap-ass crew of sleazes in Washington are finally going to give me something for my money. Either that or I need to contact the VA and see if I am eligible for Tricare since USAF got 20 years of reserve duty from me. But I would assume the nearest VA hospital is going to be in Syracuse or beyond and that's a 150+ mile round trip. One way or the other I want something back from Uncle Sam instead of carrying all the bottom feeders that pay a mere fraction of what I do in taxes.
 
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This post is an outstanding example of exactly what is wrong with America nowadays.

Who made you leave the Air Guard and who made you live 150 miles away from health care?

You made decisions and now want somebody else to pay for the decisions you made.

Actually, you are one of the bottom feeders that are carried by me. I spent 20 years protecting your freedom of speech so you could even type that garbage, and I guarantee I pay 5x to 10x what you do in taxes every year. Hell, I bet my taxes are more than your salary by a long shot. Maybe more. People like you should kiss the a$$es of people like me that pay 90% of the taxes. Your kind hasn't paid a dime for my decisions. Other way around. I pay for your kind to even exist.
 
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Actually, you are one of the bottom feeders that are carried by me. I spent 20 years protecting your freedom of speech so you could even type that garbage, and I guarantee I pay 5x to 10x what you do in taxes every year. Hell, I bet my taxes are more than your salary by a long shot. Maybe more. People like you should kiss the a$$es of people like me that pay 90% of the taxes. Your kind hasn't paid a dime for my decisions. Other way around. I pay for your kind to even exist.

LOL. You know way far less than you think you know about me or anything else for that matter. Lets see where to start on your last two foolish posts. We'll start with this: "a bill paying screw-up cancelled my COBRA". Uh why don't people pay their bills on time? It's always one of two things, if not both. (a) they don't have the money (b) they are stupid.

Now on to this: "but I have to assume the $80K to $100K I pay in taxes every year somehow entitles me to get something back." (a) you don't pay your bills so it's very questionable if you make what you claim (b) point out which part of the tax code "entitles" you to get something back if you haven't overpaid (c) some people pay way more than what you claim you pay others pay way less than what you claim you pay. If everybody gets "something back" it does little good to pay taxes to begin with.

Now this: "It has to be cheaper". Your screw up caused you to look elsewhere for insurance. It's not BCBS fault you screwed up and they are not in business to go broke. In the future, don't be a screw up.

Now this: "I need to contact the VA and see if I am eligible for Tricare since USAF got 20 years of reserve duty from me." The VA and Tricare are two completely different organizations. 20 years of service and you don't know that? 20 years of service and you don't know if you are eligible for Tricare? Those make it questionable if you even did 20 years of service. But if you did, why are you so screwed up you don't know what you are eligible for? Everybody else gets briefed repeatedly on what they are eligible for. Sounds like it goes back to item (b) on why people don't pay their bills.

Now this: " trying to say my wife's diabetes won't be covered." It will be covered just as soon as she meets the wait requirement required by the state of New York. You should already know this if she really has diabetes.

Now this: " I would assume the nearest VA hospital". You have access to a computer and most likely a phone. Item (b) again on why people don't pay their bills.

Now this: "Actually, you are one of the bottom feeders that are carried by me." No I'm not and no you don't.

Now this: " I spent 20 years protecting your freedom of speech". Why thank you (if you did serve). But does my military time count toward me protecting my own freedom of speech or is it just yours?

Now this: "I guarantee I pay 5x to 10x what you do in taxes every year". If based on what you claim to make, you don't. Item (b) again on your part.

Now this: " Hell, I bet my taxes are more than your salary by a long shot." No need in you playing the lottery or betting on the Kentucky Derby. You make horrible bets.

Now this: "People like you should kiss the a$$es of people like me that pay 90% of the taxes". By your standard you'd be kissing mine.

Now this: "Your kind hasn't paid a dime for my decisions. Other way around. I pay for your kind to even exist." You have no clue as to what my "kind" is. Lots of item (b) there.
 
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---- yeah, but its different, its a benefit he needs....

And one he earned as the contract he signed with the government says.
 
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And one he earned as the contract he signed with the government says.
Government spending is bad unless it benefits me personally, then it's the best thing ever.
 
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I saw it. It doesn't need to be delayed. And no, I want an acceptance that we need to move forward and work to make it better under that context. No more misinformation. No more hyperbole. By the real work our leaders should be doing.

IOW, you want total compliance, and glowing review regardless of the actual garbage in this bill...I understand, most propagandists in history thought the same way. Not sayin', just sayin'....The real work would seem to rely on listening to the people, right? Well then, why is it that this turd is unpopular as it is in the public, is not being delayed before it is forced on people in its current broken fashion, and causes damage to lives?
 
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