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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So let's work to fix that glitch. No one said the act was perfect. You want to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
    PPACA is not a baby, it's a falsely titled law that promotes health care AND health insurance becoming more expensive. The fact that there are subsidies does not make health insurance a cheaper product, it only masks the fact that it's actually becoming more expensive faster, and beyond that there are no significant controls on the cost of health CARE itself.

    Most parents would probably rather forego insurance for themselves so that they could insure their children, but thanks to the law's ****-up, it's specifically children who are not covered by the subsidy program. Meanwhile the ban on high-deductible plans and the mandates to include extra stuff in the insurance coverage is pushing premiums higher and higher, with no relief for some of these families.

    Yeah let's fix the ****ing glitch, and in the meantime maybe you on the left can stop pretending it's only "Republican propaganda" that the law is a piece of ****.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Maybe good insurance exists in NYC (Downstate NY), but in Central NY there are no carriers other than BCBS Excellus. None. And I am being told in Upstate NY it's just as bad (I have friends in Rochester and Bufffalo). But Central NY - nothing. Even the farm bureau put me in touch with some company that wanted $2,000 a month with a pre-existing condition clause (USI Effinity). I live in a town where it's all farms, and every other farmer I know has no insurance. Since leaving the Air National Guard and becoming involved with the USAF Civil Air Patrol (I wanted to learn to fly), I lost my Tricare from Uncle Sam. I'm sure if I was in dire straits I could probably go to a VA hospital for care, but I don't think there is one within 150 miles of me. Obamacare will be a godsend to Central and Upstate NY.
    This post is an outstanding example of exactly what is wrong with America nowadays.

    Who made you leave the Air Guard and who made you live 150 miles away from health care?

    You made decisions and now want somebody else to pay for the decisions you made.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

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    Joe....Did you just not read the post? I don't think you did, because if you did read it, you'd have seen this part right there in black and white...



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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    it does suck, it has ruined people that had great insurance and as we can see it is even screwing people that can't afford it. It is typical democrat legislation.
    Most people think they have great insurance right up until the point they actually have to use it.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    it does suck, it has ruined people that had great insurance and as we can see it is even screwing people that can't afford it. It is typical democrat legislation.
    that is not an argument, that is an unsupported statement of opinion.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    What reduces the cost of the government subsidies substantially is that many families may not get them, because of the family glitch.

    Republican propaganda?







    If you want to just sit back and play the speculation card about politicians' hidden motives, I suppose that's up to you. The rest of the nation though, especially middle class families, may need to be ready to figure out how they're going to make ends meet without leaving their children uninsured.
    Well, maybe if Ted cruz wasn't playing dumbass almost filibuster today, and the republicans actually cared to fix the problems instead of just pretending health care changes were not needed and only looking to throw out the ACA and not make it better we might have something. But I see no reason to screw the single by throwing it all out just to help some families who are too stupid to tell their congresspeople to stop playing games and get them and their kids some cheaper healthcare.

    This is what happens when your focus is only hate and disruption and not actually trying to make things better.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    it does suck, it has ruined people that had great insurance and as we can see it is even screwing people that can't afford it. It is typical democrat legislation.
    Support that. I don't believe it at all. My insurance is as good as its ever been.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    it does suck, it has ruined people that had great insurance and as we can see it is even screwing people that can't afford it. It is typical democrat legislation.
    Typical misinformed partisan response. The act was based on a Republican Govs. healthcare reform that insured >98% of his State and met with large statewide approval. That's the irony of it all. I bet you even voted for him. You don't see Mass. residents wanting to repeal Romneycare do you?

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Well, maybe if Ted cruz wasn't playing dumbass almost filibuster today, and the republicans actually cared to fix the problems instead of just pretending health care changes were not needed and only looking to throw out the ACA and not make it better we might have something. But I see no reason to screw the single by throwing it all out just to help some families who are too stupid to tell their congresspeople to stop playing games and get them and their kids some cheaper healthcare.
    Wow. You sure you won't to own that position? Recklessly defending a law that sticks it to middle class families, and calling the families stupid to boot?

    Middle class families did not have an option to get them and their families cheaper health care. This legislation made sure of it.

    But you go ahead continuing to defend this crap legislation that makes average families with children worse off, and calling THEM stupid for it. I enjoy irony.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Wow. You sure you won't to own that position? Recklessly defending a law that sticks it to middle class families, and calling the families stupid to boot?

    Middle class families did not have an option to get them and their families cheaper health care. This legislation made sure of it.

    But you go ahead continuing to defend this crap legislation that makes average families with children worse off, and calling THEM stupid for it. I enjoy irony.
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    We're at the point now where Obamacare is going to create a national database on all of our behaviors and habits and still these cult members are trying this pile of garbage like it's 2010 all over again. Over the last 3 years every LIE that was presented as Hope and Change has been exposed. They can't refute the facts so they act like it's the "law of the land"..yea well so is Immigration and you don't see them so eager to support that law do you

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