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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Oh well, you read a lot of "things"? That citation is unassailable!
    if you want an article, I can certainly cite many.

    You can certainly start here for an overview of misinformation:

    PolitiFact | Health Care statements

    For some, this would be good place:

    Health Care Reform and Medicare Myths vs. Facts - AARP

    For an academic view, you can start here:

    http://www.dartmouth.edu/~nyhan/heal...nformation.pdf

    Just let me know what you ant to know.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Comunitee.com View Post
    * Insurance should be provided for everything. You read me: Everything.
    Do you think your insurance company on your car should pick up all costs associated with your car?

    Gas, oil changes, wipers, brakes, and belt adjustments? How much do you think that insurance would cost?

    Who is going to pay for the overage when your medical bills exceed your premiums?

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Yes I have insurance, its given to me by an employer for my labor, and its likely to go away since my 36 hours are going to be reduced to 28 January 1, 2014. Just to put a "fail" into your claim that insurance companies are raising rates to maximize profits ahead of the obamafarce the state of CA regulates "profits" on insurance companies and would forbid such a policy / effort. Since CA is 11-12% of the population in the US your wet dream of corporate hatred for insurance companies is false - just like the claims you've made about your rates going down but then later say they will probably go up. What a joke - from your own post no less.
    More CONvoluted crap to try and spin your way out.

    First MY premium costs were to show Humana is a crappy company for private insurance and I found MUCH better elsewhere... since the ACA has not gone into effect how can anyone have a new policy yet???? You just don't think, it is almost pure knee jerk CON crap.

    ALL states 'regulate' profits, the so-called 80-20 law which got me a nice rebate check this year from Humana for failing to reinvest in the state's program for improving the process before I changed companies.

    How else do you explain a 300% increase in the OP's policy AHEAD of ACA going into effect???? That was what YOU initially tried to blame on the ACA, well until it is pointed out the ACA has not gone into affect yet....

    I figured you was clueless on what healthcare costs and what it would take to self insure. We ALL work for our money, so the 'for my labor' is self stroking crap. When you do go to 36 hours welcome to my world and good luck!!!! (Does show how much the employers value their workers) Do you REALLY think Pappa John couldn't eat 5 cents a pizza/ tack on the nickle to show his workers how much he realizes without them he wouldn't have all he does- or is he telling them "I can get a dozen more just like ya at the drop of a hat"???

    Seems your boss is giving you the same message as well....

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. You know way far less than you think you know about me or anything else for that matter. Lets see where to start on your last two foolish posts. We'll start with this: "a bill paying screw-up cancelled my COBRA". Uh why don't people pay their bills on time? It's always one of two things, if not both. (a) they don't have the money (b) they are stupid.

    Now on to this: "but I have to assume the $80K to $100K I pay in taxes every year somehow entitles me to get something back." (a) you don't pay your bills so it's very questionable if you make what you claim (b) point out which part of the tax code "entitles" you to get something back if you haven't overpaid (c) some people pay way more than what you claim you pay others pay way less than what you claim you pay. If everybody gets "something back" it does little good to pay taxes to begin with.

    Now this: "It has to be cheaper". Your screw up caused you to look elsewhere for insurance. It's not BCBS fault you screwed up and they are not in business to go broke. In the future, don't be a screw up.

    Now this: "I need to contact the VA and see if I am eligible for Tricare since USAF got 20 years of reserve duty from me." The VA and Tricare are two completely different organizations. 20 years of service and you don't know that? 20 years of service and you don't know if you are eligible for Tricare? Those make it questionable if you even did 20 years of service. But if you did, why are you so screwed up you don't know what you are eligible for? Everybody else gets briefed repeatedly on what they are eligible for. Sounds like it goes back to item (b) on why people don't pay their bills.

    Now this: " trying to say my wife's diabetes won't be covered." It will be covered just as soon as she meets the wait requirement required by the state of New York. You should already know this if she really has diabetes.

    Now this: " I would assume the nearest VA hospital". You have access to a computer and most likely a phone. Item (b) again on why people don't pay their bills.

    Now this: "Actually, you are one of the bottom feeders that are carried by me." No I'm not and no you don't.

    Now this: " I spent 20 years protecting your freedom of speech". Why thank you (if you did serve). But does my military time count toward me protecting my own freedom of speech or is it just yours?

    Now this: "I guarantee I pay 5x to 10x what you do in taxes every year". If based on what you claim to make, you don't. Item (b) again on your part.

    Now this: " Hell, I bet my taxes are more than your salary by a long shot." No need in you playing the lottery or betting on the Kentucky Derby. You make horrible bets.

    Now this: "People like you should kiss the a$$es of people like me that pay 90% of the taxes". By your standard you'd be kissing mine.

    Now this: "Your kind hasn't paid a dime for my decisions. Other way around. I pay for your kind to even exist." You have no clue as to what my "kind" is. Lots of item (b) there.
    What I don't get is if a person makes a couple hundred thousand a year, why can't they pay for their own medical care?

    Why do they need an all inclusive insurance plan?

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Doesn't it anger anyone here that Obama gave corporations a one year delay which means individuals will have to make up that money the corporations will not be paying?

    How could costs possibly go down?

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    When obamites lose it - its not pretty. Coherence is gone, logic out the window, and can't even recognize their own arguments. The really fun part is when they claim one thing and then present another - as in how their rates went down but will likely go up - duh.

    obamafarce is taking from the working class and giving to those who don't bother to work for it - plain and simple. More liberals buying votes of their favored 47%.


    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    More CONvoluted crap to try and spin your way out.

    First MY premium costs were to show Humana is a crappy company for private insurance and I found MUCH better elsewhere... since the ACA has not gone into effect how can anyone have a new policy yet???? You just don't think, it is almost pure knee jerk CON crap.

    ALL states 'regulate' profits, the so-called 80-20 law which got me a nice rebate check this year from Humana for failing to reinvest in the state's program for improving the process before I changed companies.

    How else do you explain a 300% increase in the OP's policy AHEAD of ACA going into effect???? That was what YOU initially tried to blame on the ACA, well until it is pointed out the ACA has not gone into affect yet....

    I figured you was clueless on what healthcare costs and what it would take to self insure. We ALL work for our money, so the 'for my labor' is self stroking crap. When you do go to 36 hours welcome to my world and good luck!!!! (Does show how much the employers value their workers) Do you REALLY think Pappa John couldn't eat 5 cents a pizza/ tack on the nickle to show his workers how much he realizes without them he wouldn't have all he does- or is he telling them "I can get a dozen more just like ya at the drop of a hat"???

    Seems your boss is giving you the same message as well....

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What I don't get is if a person makes a couple hundred thousand a year, why can't they pay for their own medical care?

    Why do they need an all inclusive insurance plan?
    I think he is as phony as a three dollar bill.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you think your insurance company on your car should pick up all costs associated with your car?

    Gas, oil changes, wipers, brakes, and belt adjustments? How much do you think that insurance would cost?

    Who is going to pay for the overage when your medical bills exceed your premiums?

    I think they are not the same. Health of a person is not equal to health of a car. I can live with your car dying, but I might actually care if a person dies due to lack of appropriate care.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I think they are not the same. Health of a person is not equal to health of a car. I can live with your car dying, but I might actually care if a person dies due to lack of appropriate care.
    And of course the government will supply that appropriate care!

    LOL!

    Well they'll supply the bureaucracy anyway, if that is a satisfactory substitute for actual health care..

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Doesn't it anger anyone here that Obama gave corporations a one year delay which means individuals will have to make up that money the corporations will not be paying?

    How could costs possibly go down?
    They can't. They will never go down. The only thing that will go down is the quality of health care.

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