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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    My wife and I had Humana as private insurance- high deductible (5K), no on going health care issues, and no riders to cover the high deductible such as AFLAC.

    550 a month.

    We asked about a plan with riders to cover cancer and serious illness (the AFLAC style riders) well they claimed to not offer such but could put together a plan with other insurance carriers- 830 a month IIRC.

    We now have a different company with riders, a dental plan, and a vision care thing.

    343 a month.

    You don't take the gubmint's word without question, why do you take Humana's as if it is the 11th commandment????

    Like Pappa John's and that Florida franchise owner of I think it was Denny's.... They claim one thing, but simple math shows they are just being petty, partisan asses....
    So you have an Obamacare plan for $343/month that is superior to what you had before?
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Actually, you are one of the bottom feeders that are carried by me.
    Bottom feeders? Projection? hmmmm....

    I spent 20 years protecting your freedom of speech so you could even type that garbage....
    Yeah? What unit were you in? What did you do in the military? What branch? Officer, or enlisted?

    I spent less time in, but I was active duty Army for 6 years, with my last unit being the 101st. I only say this because you seem to have wanted to throw your reserve service out there as some 'dick waiving' contest to shut down your opponent in debate, and I can tell ya brother, that is poor form. If you think you are entitled to a lifetime of my support just because you chose the path of a volunteer in the greatest military in history, then I would question why you do anything in the first place.

    , and I guarantee I pay 5x to 10x what you do in taxes every year.
    How could possibly know that? You're in here whining because you don't get 'free stuff', yet you want to project the picture of financial independence? I'm not buying it...

    People like you should kiss the a$$es of people like me that pay 90% of the taxes. Your kind hasn't paid a dime for my decisions. Other way around. I pay for your kind to even exist.
    Nah, like I said I am not buying it....If you were truly independently wealthy like that, I seriously doubt that you'd be in a board like this wasting time....Most people I know that have that kind of money don't have the time for silliness like this.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you have an Obamacare plan for $343/month that is superior to what you had before?

    That would be impossible as far as I understand...You can't even look at the 'exchanges' til next week, and that to start with will only be through a 'facilitator'.... I have the feeling we are entering the stage of the law where a lot of outright lies will be made up on boards like this to tamp down the true stories of people being hurt out there...Remember all the reports of Obama operatives infiltrating boards like these a while back.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That would be impossible as far as I understand...You can't even look at the 'exchanges' til next week, and that to start with will only be through a 'facilitator'.... I have the feeling we are entering the stage of the law where a lot of outright lies will be made up on boards like this to tamp down the true stories of people being hurt out there...Remember all the reports of Obama operatives infiltrating boards like these a while back.
    Yeah, well I was just asking the question.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah, well I was just asking the question.

    Oh, I know...Just sayin'
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Government spending is bad unless it benefits me personally, then it's the best thing ever.
    I get the point you are making. However, expecting people to spend 20 or 30 years in the military, do what they are required to do for what they get paid, something else has to be offered. Health care has been the standard thing offered and agreed upon by the government and the service member. The funny thing about it though, when retired many do not even use it or use it as a secondary cutting the governments cost by a lot. They end up working somewhere else because the retired pay just isn't enough and they take their new employers insurance or that of their spouse. That will be changing now of course because of Obamacare. The government will soon be stuck paying the full amount for what they agreed to with each retired service member which of course taxpayers will have to pay for.
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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    IOW, you want total compliance, and glowing review regardless of the actual garbage in this bill...I understand, most propagandists in history thought the same way. Not sayin', just sayin'....The real work would seem to rely on listening to the people, right? Well then, why is it that this turd is unpopular as it is in the public, is not being delayed before it is forced on people in its current broken fashion, and causes damage to lives?
    you always project j. I'm not the one spreading misinformation. A boss will listen, but not placate the ill informed. Not if he wants any success. The fact is, you are responding largely to misinformation. yes, this bill can and should be improved, but it is not what you think it is.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    you always project j. I'm not the one spreading misinformation. A boss will listen, but not placate the ill informed. Not if he wants any success. The fact is, you are responding largely to misinformation. yes, this bill can and should be improved, but it is not what you think it is.
    And Boo Radley knows because he reads Obama's website.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Yet more CON games

    First I keep asking and you keep avoiding- you don't have much experience with insurance do you?

    Next once you get past the 'bumper sticker' crap and look at why the premiums are going up you see the final gasp of the huge insurance conglomerates hiking rates to maximize their profit pre ACA. Humana didn't hike their premium rate due to the ACA, that tripling came BEFORE the law kicks in.

    Next the charts leave out one key detail, premium rise will occur in the younger set, the older and growing set will hold steady or decrease. So I can see the youngsters screaming, even those who have employer subsidized insurance, but the older segment of society is a huge part of our society

    So what is the biggest part of any predicted rate increase, and let's remember the increase so feared is as much a part of those who hate and are fighting ACA than any real numbers.

    The biggest part is expanding coverage PER PERSON. What was never covered is now covered. This will make a big difference down the road as our resident partisan 'I gotta hate the ACA' crowd refuse to see is detecting and treating early is far less expensive for the patient and their family. Co-pays can destroy a family's budget.

    So I can see young folks being mad that the healthcare industry will receive a long overdue reform, it isn't perfect and the very self centered youth are mad, but for the rest of the nation let's see before we judge.

    But back on the OP, NP brought in a pile of steaming crap that had nothing to due with ACA but the greed of Humana. In Cal's chart where is the state with a 300% rate increase????

    There is no state but the one of Denial.

    Given the 'experts' in elections and war making on the CON side of the room I'd say let's wait and see how this whole thing shakes out before believing articles posted on CON websites.

    IF the massive rate increases occur like the CONs claim ACA will be dropped like a hot rock.

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    Re: One man's ObamaCare nightmare

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you have an Obamacare plan for $343/month that is superior to what you had before?
    You have not been paying attention have you?

    I said HUMANA has for crap plans that are over priced and under coverage compared to many other sources.

    Several have pointed out all this blaming of the ACA is premature as the new regulations have not kicked in yet, the 300% rate increase is due to HUMANA price gouging NOT ACA.

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