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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your source does not talk about that, which is why you are moving the goalpost. Your source also denies higher costs and rationed care, and you seem to be ignorant of how the exchanges work.
    Serious question

    Are you going to buy HI or pay the fine?

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    WHat does that have to do with insurance companies offering low cost, low benefit plans through the insurance exchange? That would be the topic of the article and what I was talking about.
    I didn't think low benefit plans were allowed, unless you mean Bronze = low benefit.

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Serious question

    Are you going to buy HI or pay the fine?
    Do you know what the fine is for 2014. It will not be part of the decision to sign up or not in 2014.

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your source does not talk about that, which is why you are moving the goalpost. Your source also denies higher costs and rationed care, and you seem to be ignorant of how the exchanges work.
    it called expansion of the topic that is related to the topic it isn't called moving the goal post. And I did refer to it with my statement of being lied to about how you can keep your doctor and you health plan

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Do you know what the fine is for 2014. It will not be part of the decision to sign up or not in 2014.
    It starts small and will incrementally increase year after year until the only economical plan you will be able to buy will be the dogsh*& Obamacare Plan where the hospitals will be like TJ

    All while working 2 part time jobs, in debt to your eyeballs because of student loans for careers that no longer exist

    Paying the fine = No health insurance. No health coverage.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    it called expansion of the topic that is related to the topic it isn't called moving the goal post. And I did refer to it with my statement of being lied to about how you can keep your doctor and you health plan
    Yea what happened to that? The only people moving the goal post are sycophants who keep trying to spray perfume onto this pile of dog crap called Obamacare. "You're just too stupid to understand" is the only talking point they have left. They lied lied lied when they sold us this snake oil. Obamacare was never about health care. None of this has anything to do with HC. It all has to do with that shiny new MASSIVE database the Obama Administration will create when this monstrosity goes into full effect.

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Do you know what the fine is for 2014. It will not be part of the decision to sign up or not in 2014.
    you will find out when you don't sign up and the fine is taken out of your tax refund check by the IRS unless you are a registered democrat that contributed and voted for Obama then you will get a waver to that fine

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Do you know what the fine is for 2014. It will not be part of the decision to sign up or not in 2014.
    Its $0 if your income is below $10,000, $95/person or 1% of your income above $10,000. There is also a $285 family cap if the flat $ fine is the greater of the two. For example, a family of 4 without insurance would pay a $285 fine for incomes below $43,500.

    Of course, if you just manage your withholdings appropriately you can avoid the penalty altogether.
    Last edited by Samhain; 09-23-13 at 04:41 PM. Reason: 300% not $300

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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Are you saying you know how the exchanges work? Also is it a question of how the exchanges work or what the law allows?
    The exchanges are simply a place to go online that has plans from several insurers. They are simply a way to organize and compare plans. With the expansion of who will be getting insurance, insurers are offering a range of plans. As the article points out, many of these plans are cheaper, but without some of the benefits of more expensive plans.
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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Serious question

    Are you going to buy HI or pay the fine?
    Why do you assume I do not have insurance?
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    Re: Lower Health Insurance Premiums to Come at Cost of Fewer Choices

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I didn't think low benefit plans were allowed, unless you mean Bronze = low benefit.
    Bronze plans are in fact lower benefit plans, covering only about 60 % of health care costs(very roughly).
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