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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    OK here it goes i got an answer from goshin and since the video is directly related to the story in question and im only posting the link with a clear warning it seems its ok.


    WARNING: this link contains graphic video of the impact, it is the NON-EDITED version.

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    DashCam Video Of Police Killing Marlon Brown With Vehicle Released | Global Grind
    some people asked me about the link and video so i qouted myself
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    If you wish to discuss this as a topic, feel free to start a thread on it. Otherwise, any further post along this line of debate/discuassion would be derailing to the topic of this thread.
    My bad. I digress. You may continue your psychopathic analysis of how people should be killed for no apparent reason.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) false if it violates protocol which this did.
    The very question addresses the issue of protocal


    besides the obvious engine rev and no evidence of using brakes
    1) heard no engine rev

    2) as stated in the beginning, the window of action was very small


    tend to agree but recklessness, violating protocol is all that is needed for a crime.
    The family is claiming it was intentional

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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    all the ones he was factually fired for violating, a common sense guess would be pursuit protocols, ask his chief

    “The actions taken by officer Harris that night are not consistent with our department’s training, directives or accepted practices or techniques,” Chief of Police William E. Ridgway said in a statement.
    Harris was fired soon after by Deland Police Chief Bill Ridgway for violating department protocols.
    heres a link
    City of DeLand, FL - William Ridgway
    This is the same chief whose department according to the OP article,

    "...are conducting an internal review of the incident. This week, law enforcement officials have been going over more than 2,000 documents to determine whether appropriate tactics were used, whether police policies were followed and if those policies reflect the best way to deal with similar situations." Again, how was he fired for not following protocol when the department is not even investigating until this week whether policies were followed or not?

    I'm asking you because you are the one that stated

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    The video was viewed and it was clear protocol was violated so he was terminated. im fine with that, im actually great with that.

    1.) false if it violates protocol which this did. his pursuit can continue on foot. like the other senior office knew and choose to do. Protocol determines this and this is why he was fired, he violated protocol.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    1.)The very question addresses the issue of protocal
    2.) heard no engine rev

    3.)) as stated in the beginning, the window of action was very small




    4.) The family is claiming it was intentional
    1.) there is no question though, the answer has been determined and protocol was violated hence the statements by his department and his firing. so wanting to know what this individual ran has no impact to the story
    2.) then you need your hearing check, your ISP is poor, your speakers arent quality and or you need to listen again. Many heard it here and a couple articles comment on it. Its very obvious that the engine REVS. we could debate WHY it does but it revs.
    3.) meaningless really for a couple reason

    if he follows protocol no need to worry about this
    if he was really worried about stopping he should have already been breaking, the guy falling is meaningless to the fence right behind him. if the guy doesnt fall the cop still hits the fence no doubt without some type of lucky power slide.
    even after impact there doesnt seem to be a great hurry to stop, now this one is just my opinion.

    4.) they can claim what ever they want, doesnt impact the law
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    This is the same chief whose department according to the OP article,

    "...are conducting an internal review of the incident. This week, law enforcement officials have been going over more than 2,000 documents to determine whether appropriate tactics were used, whether police policies were followed and if those policies reflect the best way to deal with similar situations." Again, how was he fired for not following protocol when the department is not even investigating until this week whether policies were followed or not?

    I'm asking you because you are the one that stated[/QUOTE]

    already answered this in an earlier post, the extra investigation is being conducted now because of the possible escalation . its to see if there can be a trail without the corners report, this isnt hard to understand

    nothing has changed and deflecting from that isnt going to work.

    write the chief and get back to us and let us know
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My bad. I digress. You may continue your psychopathic analysis of how people should be killed for no apparent reason.
    Who said anything about people being killed. The article references a criminal and I did mention Liberals. How is it that you someone how translate that to mean people?
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    This is the same chief whose department according to the OP article,

    "...are conducting an internal review of the incident. This week, law enforcement officials have been going over more than 2,000 documents to determine whether appropriate tactics were used, whether police policies were followed and if those policies reflect the best way to deal with similar situations." Again, how was he fired for not following protocol when the department is not even investigating until this week whether policies were followed or not?

    I'm asking you because you are the one that stated

    already answered this in an earlier post, the extra investigation is being conducted now because of the possible escalation . its to see if there can be a trail without the corners report, this isnt hard to understand

    nothing has changed and deflecting from that isnt going to work.

    write the chief and get back to us and let us know
    Not deflecting. Try reading the quoted portion. It says the department is investigating whether or not policies were followed. It does not say that they are investigating further, ie additional, policies were not followed. As written it clearly denotes that the department is just now investigating it, not that it is investigating additional failures to follow policy.

    Further, you declared the violation of procedure, you did not quote, you did not reference or anyway declare that you were referencing anything but rather was making the statement yourself.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    It's obvious that the officer didn't attempt to brake, even if he did not accelerate. It would have been quite possible to stop without hitting the guy, even after going after him on the grass. Furthermore, you can see that the car was stopped very suddenly by impacting a chain-link fence, visible just before the suspect was struck by the car.

    We have a court system. Suspects are to be brought in front of a judge to determine their crimes and sentence, alive and intact. This officer did nothing to prevent his vehicle from striking the suspect at a high rate of speed, while the only threat to said officer was his reckless and criminal behavior.

    It's somewhat reassuring to see that the department fired him, at least.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) there is no question though, the answer has been determined and protocol was violated hence the statements by his department and his firing. so wanting to know what this individual ran has no impact to the story
    2.) then you need your hearing check, your ISP is poor, your speakers arent quality and or you need to listen again. Many heard it here and a couple articles comment on it. Its very obvious that the engine REVS. we could debate WHY it does but it revs.
    3.) meaningless really for a couple reason

    if he follows protocol no need to worry about this
    if he was really worried about stopping he should have already been breaking, the guy falling is meaningless to the fence right behind him. if the guy doesnt fall the cop still hits the fence no doubt without some type of lucky power slide.
    even after impact there doesnt seem to be a great hurry to stop, now this one is just my opinion.

    4.) they can claim what ever they want, doesnt impact the law
    Yes, the engine revs, however, there is not a way to determine why. So you admit that you are assuming the engine revs because of acceleration and not because of reduction of load when drive wheel/s spin or are bounced out of contact.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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