but you are right "in general"
we could make up a scenario, if he was a known terrorist and it was known he was running to where his detonator was then yes, protocols change, grey areas are widened and you run the ****er over!
Is that the one you're talking about?
I have difficulty watching a lot of online vids here at work because of Flash issues on my work PC but the first one you linked to I was able to view.
In that vid I didn't see anything that would indicate to me that he (the cop) deliberately sped up. No engine rev, no obvious increase in the rate of speed at which "the background" was passing by outside his window (if that makes sense).
I don't claim to be a video testimony expert of any sort though so while I may not have seen it I'm not going to argue that you couldn't have seen it or that you're mis-seeing it, or anything like that.
I disagree with you that any such deliberate, let's say malicious, effort was made to squash the dude.
On a different note, I did see earlier in the convo that you and someone else were discussing the fact that there was no "dip" of the hood which would indicate a rapid application of the brakes.
I would expect to see that in any kind of "oh ****! need to stop NOW!" <slams on brakes>, type of situation. Which is about what you'd expect to see at the point where it becomes obvious that the car is on a collision course with a "pedestrian" at a high rate of speed.
But as the two of you concluded, and I find myself in the same boat, I'm not expert in rapid deceleration of motor vehicles to the extent that I know what I should expect to see or can speak intelligently to what I actually saw.
I'll tell you what though.
There are VERY few "cop gone bad" videos where I come down on the side of the cop, even if only from a tentative "let's all calm down and see how this plays out" perspective.
This is one of them.
This is certainly an unfortunate incident and at a minimum I believe that this particular cop is guilty of not packing the gear necessary to do the job.
But I'm not convinced he's necessarily guilty of any crime.
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Again, I've watched the video a few times and it seems more a case of reckless as opposed to intentional behaviorwe could make up a scenario, if he was a known terrorist and it was known he was running to where his detonator was then yes, protocols change, grey areas are widened and you run the ****er over!
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2.) im certainly not either, besides the engine rev and no hood dip the rest is guess work for me
3.) deliberate? im not sure about that either besides the engine REV. but absolutely not caring and negligence im on board that ship!
4.) dont know if that was me or not because at least a hand full of people talked about that
5.) I agree and i feel the same.
6.) currently i dont side with the cop at all because rationally and logically i have no reason too based on reports and video and violated protocol.
7.) well i myself cant make him guilty but this needs to go to court not be dismissed.
2.) besides the obvious engine rev and no evidence of using brakes i tend to agree but recklessness, violating protocol is all that is needed for a crime.
“The actions taken by officer Harris that night are not consistent with our department’s training, directives or accepted practices or techniques,” Chief of Police William E. Ridgway said in a statement.
Harris was fired soon after by Deland Police Chief Bill Ridgway for violating department protocols.[/QUOTE]
heres a link
City of DeLand, FL - William Ridgway