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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That's not how it goes...Run from the cops, they chase you. People breaking the law don't get to set the scenario.
    actually most departments have strict procedures on highspeed chases to avoid the danger they create over simple violations, like not wearing a seat belt. Usually such chases are only within procedure when the criminal represents a threat of public safety

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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    also comments of the engine rev in articles that other people noticed

    VERY fishy and definitely protocol violations

    what will that lead too? who knows but it should definitely go to trial IMO.
    What protocol?
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    What protocol?
    wasnt listed, when is it ever, good try at a deflection but its meaningless

    Harris was fired soon after by Deland Police Chief Bill Ridgway for violating department protocols.
    “The actions taken by officer Harris that night are not consistent with our department’s training, directives or accepted practices or techniques,” Chief of Police William E. Ridgway said in a statement.
    write a letter, email or call chief Ridgway maybe he can help you understand
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) yep that was their statement
    2.) yes now because this cant go to trial the polices are conducting a deep internal investigation due to pressure /request also in one of the articles
    3.) see #2 The captain or officer in charge fired him immediately after viewing the tape. No knee jerk at all.
    4.) i agree until you break procedure, most high speed chases arent even permitted in certain areas, time of day etc unless theres extra circumstances. Very logical after watching the dash cam
    5.) not saying thats not true but i cant recall any articles referring to specific protocols/procedures, just saying their are violations and im talking about other cases also.
    6.) lol who cares who was killed, the guy could have been neon pink for all i care and the video shows gross negligence by the officer IMO.

    the only thing keeping this from going to trial at the moment is the corners report which makes no sense to me.

    it stating the he wasnt killed by the impact but it resting on him seems completely meaningless to me.

    I hope this makes it even if they have to use different charges and this guy goes to jail. Luckily most cops are smarter much better than this.
    So you are ok with a police officer being fired without being given due process? Why is that normally, as determined by other cases in the news about officer wrongdoing, that other officers are placed on leave or taken off the street until investigations are completed, but yet, here we have an officer outright fired before the investigation to determine if wrongdoing even occurred is completed?

    Is race a factor in the incident, I see no evidence of it. However, the unusual actions taken against the officer and the fact the department has already paid out monies, even without completing an investigation, seem to be motivated by racial factors. Unless of course you can come up with some other reason aspects of the handling have been so abnormal.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    (CNN) -- The family of a Florida man has released video of his death, hoping to get criminal charges filed against the police officer who ran him over.
    On May 8, Marlon Brown was being chased by DeLand police because they allegedly saw that he was not wearing a seatbelt. At a dead-end road, Brown stopped his car and started running.
    One of the police cars hit and ran him over, its dashcam video recording the entire incident.
    Last week, a grand jury decided not to indict officer James Harris on a criminal charge of vehicular manslaughter. That's when the family decided to go public, and release the video.
    "We knew it wasn't going to be an easy video to watch," says Krystal Brown the ex-wife and mother of Brown's children, "but in order to obtain justice, and that's what we're looking for, we knew it was something that we had to do."
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    Justice, the family says, would be criminal charges against Harris for killing Marlon Brown. Harris, who has been fired as a result of the incident, could not be reached for comment.

    Man's family releases video of his death from police car dashcam - CNN.com
    Why would you run for a seatbelt violation? What else is there to this story?
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe the guy should have stopped and took his $25 seatbelt fine instead of running and putting everyone's life in danger including the cops.
    it's like Chris Rock said, "If you run from the cops and make them come get you....they're bringing an ass kicking with them."
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    1.)So you are ok with a police officer being fired without being given due process?
    2.) Why is that normally, as determined by other cases in the news about officer wrongdoing, that other officers are placed on leave or taken off the street until investigations are completed, but yet, here we have an officer outright fired before the investigation to determine if wrongdoing even occurred is completed?

    Is race a factor in the incident, I see no evidence of it. However, the unusual actions taken against the officer and the fact the department has already paid out monies, even without completing an investigation, seem to be motivated by racial factors. Unless of course you can come up with some other reason aspects of the handling have been so abnormal.
    1.) fired? vs "due process"??? yes im fine with that because he like everybody else in the case of being fired can fight or appeal and im sure he also has a union.
    2.) i would say thats not normal, id say it varies quit a bit depending on charges, union, state, agency etc. SOrry.
    it happens in cases where the chief or someone in charge feels theres not enough yet or the suspension/firing is dependent on criminal charges. Sometimes they are fired then reinstated. There is definitely no uniformity in these types of things. The video was viewed and it was clear protocol was violated so he was terminated. im fine with that, im actually great with that.

    wrong doing was already determined, what is left now is HOW MUCH wrong doing.
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Why would you run for a seatbelt violation? What else is there to this story?

    he was on parole, I believe. In fact, I think he was only released a few days prior to that

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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    he was on parole, I believe. In fact, I think he was only released a few days prior to that
    So he was violating parole? What else?
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    Re: Victims family releases graphic video of his death

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Why would you run for a seatbelt violation? What else is there to this story?
    running from the cops period is stupid but that alone has no impact to the story
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