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    re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    The religion of peace is on a roll. This time a Christian church in Pakistan. This time 75 dead. The religion of Islam needs to be held accountable for this behavior. Dismissing it as "a few extremists" is just foolish hope that the problem will disappear if we pretend it isn't real. The problem isn't going to just "go away"; not without a great deal of political and social pressure levied against the religion of Islam. The entire religion needs to be held in shame until the members of that religion start to police their own ranks.

    Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 75 People - ABC News
    Political pressure won't prevent this kind of thing from happening. The extremist who do this sort of thing only know one political view, the "will of Allah".

    No, what we need to do is create a volunteer army of Christians and others that will stand up and help these fellow Christians or any other religion being oppressed when they come under attack. Get Vets knowledgeable and able to train those willing to fight back. Get them arms to fight with. Train assassins to go after the radical leaders. If we can get actual fighters to volunteer, then we march into where this crap is happening and lay down some hurt onto these idiots. They want a Jihad, then it is time for Christians, Jews and any others that want to volunteer to stand up and give them a Jihad.

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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Political pressure won't prevent this kind of thing from happening. The extremist who do this sort of thing only know one political view, the "will of Allah".

    No, what we need to do is create a volunteer army of Christians and others that will stand up and help these fellow Christians or any other religion being oppressed when they come under attack. Get Vets knowledgeable and able to train those willing to fight back. Get them arms to fight with. Train assassins to go after the radical leaders. If we can get actual fighters to volunteer, then we march into where this crap is happening and lay down some hurt onto these idiots. They want a Jihad, then it is time for Christians, Jews and any others that want to volunteer to stand up and give them a Jihad.

    Lets Free the Oppressed and oppress the oppressors.
    Yeah, it already IS but lets go ahead and make it official, organized a Christian army and march under that banner.

    We need to use diplomacy and see how we can defuse tensions between religions and avoid attacks like this in Pakistan, not fan the flames.

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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, it already IS but lets go ahead and make it official, organized a Christian army and march under that banner.

    We need to use diplomacy and see how we can defuse tensions between religions and avoid attacks like this in Pakistan, not fan the flames.
    Diplomacy is always more successful to your side when you are holding a gun to the others head.

    Diplomacy with radicals that use suicide bombers to kill innocents and children. Who's very religious texts are full of intolerance and hatred for non-Muslims. How do you think we can negotiate anything with the ones who are so intolerant that they do these kinds of things? The only thing that they would stop for is every person on Earth converting to their form of Islam. I only kneel before the God I chose, and if they don't like it, I will die standing fighting them before a bow to Allah.

    You know how you negotiate with a suicide bomber? Head shot before he reaches the trigger device.
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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Diplomacy is always more successful to your side when you are holding a gun to the others head.

    Diplomacy with radicals that use suicide bombers to kill innocents and children. Who's very religious texts are full of intolerance and hatred for non-Muslims. How do you think we can negotiate anything with the ones who are so intolerant that they do these kinds of things? The only thing that they would stop for is every person on Earth converting to their form of Islam. I only kneel before the God I chose, and if they don't like it, I will die standing fighting them before a bow to Allah.

    You know how you negotiate with a suicide bomber? Head shot before he reaches the trigger device.
    They are being radicalised. There is a reason why they are pissed off at the US and it most certainly IS NOT because of American values. It is because of American interference in Muslim nations internal affairs for a very long time now. Deal with it diplomatically or we can kiss our asses goodbye. We must stop events like this Pakistani church attack and the Kenyan mall attack and it cannot be done by sending out company "B", it doesn't have a military solution.
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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    They are being radicalised. There is a reason why they are pissed off at the US and it most certainly IS NOT because of American values. It is because of American interference in Muslim nations internal affairs for a very long time now. Deal with it diplomatically or we can kiss our asses goodbye. We must stop events like this Pakistani church attack and the Kenyan mall attack and it cannot be done by sending out company "B", it doesn't have a military solution.
    Theres always a military solution, it just might not be the best idea to pursue it, especially with idiots in the chain of command who are unwilling to do what may be necessary.

    So, please explain what these people in the church in the OP and, since you mentioned it, the people in the mall in Kenya have to do with a supposed US war on Muslims?

    For that matter, what does all the violence between Shi'ites and Sunnis have to do with the US?
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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, it already IS but lets go ahead and make it official, organized a Christian army and march under that banner.

    We need to use diplomacy and see how we can defuse tensions between religions and avoid attacks like this in Pakistan, not fan the flames.
    So you think 'diplomacy' would work with religious fanatics? What would you say to them?

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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Theres always a military solution, it just might not be the best idea to pursue it, especially with idiots in the chain of command who are unwilling to do what may be necessary.

    So, please explain what these people in the church in the OP and, since you mentioned it, the people in the mall in Kenya have to do with a supposed US war on Muslims?

    For that matter, what does all the violence between Shi'ites and Sunnis have to do with the US?
    Saddam Hussein didn't allow the fighting between Shi'ites and Sunnis in Iraq, the US unleashed that.

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    Re: Suicide Attack on Pakistani Church Kills 78 People [W:51]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you think 'diplomacy' would work with religious fanatics? What would you say to them?
    They want the US out of the ME and out of the internal affairs of their countries! I would say yes. Like Ron Paul.

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