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    Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    (CNN) -- Every day, 22 veterans take their own lives. That's a suicide every 65 minutes. As shocking as the number is, it may actually be higher.
    The figure, released by the Department of Veterans Affairs in February, is based on the agency's own data and numbers reported by 21 states from 1999 through 2011. Those states represent about 40% of the U.S. population. The other states, including the two largest (California and Texas) and the fifth-largest (Illinois), did not make data available.
    Who wasn't counted?
    People like Levi Derby, who hanged himself in his grandfather's garage in Illinois on April 5, 2007. He was haunted, says his mother, Judy Caspar, by an Afghan child's death. He had handed the girl a bottle of water, and when she came forward to take it, she stepped on a land mine.

    THIS IS FAILURE ON A CATASTROPHIC LEVEL, but something the hawks care to ignore.


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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    (CNN) -- Every day, 22 veterans take their own lives. That's a suicide every 65 minutes. As shocking as the number is, it may actually be higher.
    The figure, released by the Department of Veterans Affairs in February, is based on the agency's own data and numbers reported by 21 states from 1999 through 2011. Those states represent about 40% of the U.S. population. The other states, including the two largest (California and Texas) and the fifth-largest (Illinois), did not make data available.
    Who wasn't counted?
    People like Levi Derby, who hanged himself in his grandfather's garage in Illinois on April 5, 2007. He was haunted, says his mother, Judy Caspar, by an Afghan child's death. He had handed the girl a bottle of water, and when she came forward to take it, she stepped on a land mine.

    THIS IS FAILURE ON A CATASTROPHIC LEVEL, but something the hawks care to ignore.


    Why suicide rate among veterans may be more than 22 a day - CNN.com

    This literally makes me want to cry, anybody who says the VA hasn't failed these men & woman is completely delusional. The government can't manage this, how can then be expected manage the entirety of the American people........

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Then maybe we shouldn't have so many pointless wars where we need to put these people into harm's way?
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then maybe we shouldn't have so many pointless wars where we need to put these people into harm's way?
    Aha, now were making progress. Notice the hawks shying away.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Aha, now were making progress. Notice the hawks shying away.
    There's nothing wrong with war when there's a need for it, but the U.S. has been running around the planet swinging it's dick for decades now. We don't need these wars, we want to show everyone that we're hot stuff.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's nothing wrong with war when there's a need for it, but the U.S. has been running around the planet swinging it's dick for decades now. We don't need these wars, we want to show everyone that we're hot stuff.
    Exactly. And yes I don't have a problem with a true DOD, I agree we don't need this DOO anymore.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    There's nothing wrong with war when there's a need for it, but the U.S. has been running around the planet swinging it's dick for decades now. We don't need these wars, we want to show everyone that we're hot stuff.
    It's all about profit now, you realize that don't you. Either growing it or protecting our ability to maintain our position of economic power.

    That aside if some young man or woman joins believing that there is some nobility in what they are doing...to later turn to suicide because they either won't (because they are too proud) or can't get the help they need is heartbreaking. We need to provide better resources for these people and the fact that we don't is just another reflection of how we use them people for personal gain then abandon them. It's shameful.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    If 40 or 50 flag draped caskets were being unloaded in front of Americans everyday as casualties of our war on Muslims there might be a larger outcry to stop the nonsense.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Aha, now were making progress. Notice the hawks shying away.
    They/we are probably staying away because other than the opening post there hasn't been enough intelligence demonstrated here for us to feed upon.

    Veteran healthcare, or rather the failure of it, has been covered before. No need to keep bitching about it when Obama is in office and the Dems have the Senate. Thankfully, the GOP at least has the house, so we haven't totally defunded veteran care to pay for welfare and medicaid yet.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    They/we are probably staying away because other than the opening post there hasn't been enough intelligence demonstrated here for us to feed upon.

    Veteran healthcare, or rather the failure of it, has been covered before. No need to keep bitching about it when Obama is in office and the Dems have the Senate. Thankfully, the GOP at least has the house, so we haven't totally defunded veteran care to pay for welfare and medicaid yet.

    This certainly includes but goes way deeper than veteran healthcare.

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