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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The DNC seems to be just as incompetent as the Obama administration.
    At least the DNC didn't have some doddering old man talking to a chair at their convention.

    Political conventions are awful anyway. I hated pep rallies in high school, and I hate them now.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I hated pep rallies in high school, and I hate them now.
    High school prep rallies were to prepare you for being true to your country.

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    Its number one in the state

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    High school prep rallies were to prepare you for being true to your country.
    I'm not real big on indoctrination.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I don't know, ask the right wing. Wasn't what I was referring to anyways.
    Then why not be specific instead of resorting to vagaries? If you think there's some element contributing to these suicides, let's examine it. Otherwise, you're just making an empty and exceedingly partisan accusation.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Why don't you go back and read the threads on some of those. The bill wasn't killed because it was a Jobs bill, it was killed because of all the attachments made to it, including the Senate Dems military spending bill. If you look up the rest, you will probably find so many BS attachements that more than justify the killing/voting against the bills. Want to see how reps and others would really vote for them, then try them without the crap attached. This **** makes good headlines for those to lazy or stupid to dig into the real facts.
    As opposed to the bills put forth by Republicans without these attachments? Or the staunch stance by Republicans not to add attachments in the first place? Oh wait, none of those happened. Every bill has absurd riders on them. That's how it works. It sucks, but that's how it works. The fact is, bills were offered, Republicans shot them down, no Republican bills came up to replace them and address the problems. One side is trying, one side is not. That's all there is to it.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not real big on indoctrination.
    Well if you're under 50 it's very likely you were indoctrinated by the radical left from K-12. It's called revisionism.

    If you refer to the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia or the Confederate Navy Jack as the Confederate flag, you have been indoctrinated.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Well if you're under 50 it's very likely you were indoctrinated by the radical left from K-12.
    You know that "I'm masturbating" pantomime, usually paired with an eye roll, that people do when they see or hear something ridiculously lame? I'm doing that now.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You know that "I'm masturbating" pantomime, usually paired with an eye roll, that people do when they see or hear something ridiculously lame? I'm doing that now.
    Yep, you have been indoctrinated.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Yep, you have been indoctrinated.
    Sure thing, buddy.
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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Sounds like one more reason to just have UHC and not worry about such complications.
    Uh... no. Such a move would only take that incentive structure and make it available to the entire country.

    Polls vary, but it appears to a pretty even 50/50 split. While 50.1% is technically a majority, I don't think you meant by such a slim margin, did you?
    Ah, no. While agreeably liberals are a sizeable minority, conservatives have a significantly larger margin than 0.1%.

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    Re: Why suicide rates among veterans may be more than 22 a day

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    (CNN) -- Every day, 22 veterans take their own lives. That's a suicide every 65 minutes. As shocking as the number is, it may actually be higher.
    The figure, released by the Department of Veterans Affairs in February, is based on the agency's own data and numbers reported by 21 states from 1999 through 2011. Those states represent about 40% of the U.S. population. The other states, including the two largest (California and Texas) and the fifth-largest (Illinois), did not make data available.
    Who wasn't counted?
    People like Levi Derby, who hanged himself in his grandfather's garage in Illinois on April 5, 2007. He was haunted, says his mother, Judy Caspar, by an Afghan child's death. He had handed the girl a bottle of water, and when she came forward to take it, she stepped on a land mine.

    THIS IS FAILURE ON A CATASTROPHIC LEVEL, but something the hawks care to ignore.


    Why suicide rate among veterans may be more than 22 a day - CNN.com
    VA needs to do more. A LOT MORE. Example: I have a friend who did a tour in Iraq and two in Afghanistan. He rotated back here two years ago. He had his entire clavicle blown away by a muslim sniper. He came home with a purple heart, bronze medal, and some other commendations for his heroism. Now he can't find a job, has nowhere to live, and is living in a day-by-day motel or on the street every night. When he had a car, he lived in it; but the car was repo'ed. VA and Uncle Sam should give this guy a house or apartment and enough money to live. If he was black I am sure he would be eligible for section-8 and welfare. But since he was "merely" a White hero protecting our way of life; he gets jack sh*t.

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