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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps so.
    That's my personal experience, and I'm not an intimidating man. I'm a very easy going person - laid back, as they used to say.

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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I just can't go there with you humbolt. This is not a problem for the military. These people are pissed at America because of our interference in their internal issues, YOU would eventually tire of someone doing the same to you. These people mingle through out their societies, they work, eat and sleep amongst them. The 'devastating' attacks you advocate will be indiscriminate and cause the innocent to suffer. Any attacks at all must in fact be pin pricks, surgical and precise. The 'turn the place into a parking lot' is as crazy as what the radicals want to do.
    "Pin pricks" don't always work out well, and can backfire disastrously. Like the attack on Fort Sumter in 1861. Or the attack on the battleship Maine in Havana harbor in 1898. Or the brief and "unimaginably small" attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. Or the "surgical and precise" attacks on New York and D.C. in 2001. None of these served the purpose of warning us off and encouraging us to mind our own business; in each case, the loss was catastrophic for the attacker. It is much more effective to turn the source of the offense into a glowing glass parking lot, since that is far more likely to get the attention of those who reject reality in favor of their own fantasies.
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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Not all of the extremists committing these acts of terror are working for Allah. There are people in it for a host of different reasons. Money (Mercs) is even one. We had Americans, a Canadian, a Brit, and an attacker from Finland involved in the Kenyan attack. But the larger conflict is between Christian and Muslim nations. And so far, the Christian nations have killed more of them than the other way around.
    I think you could make a good argument that none of the extremists are working for Allah (or at least the peaceful version of Allah). And while the civilized world may "have killed more of them than the other way around" it is clear that we have not yet killed nearly enough of them.
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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Some of those 1.6B muslims can take up some arms and do a sweep of the building to show good will and support for the victims.
    But, they wont. They will talk about how horrible it is, then laugh under their breath.
    Sad but true. And they will probably never understand that their attitude will eliminate them and all their progeny from the global gene pool.
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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Christians aren't doing that, but then I don't believe I ever said they were.
    As Christians ought to clean their own house of radicals
    I was just asking where the examples were, if any, of Christian "radicals" doing what Muslims are doing around the world

    Thanks for clarifying

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    That's a good observation. The radical Muslims and the German Nazis share much, and there are many who note the correlations and similarities going all the way back to well before WWII, including joining in common cause during that war.
    Yea - self centered and unjustified hatred of everyone else.
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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    "Pin pricks" don't always work out well, and can backfire disastrously. Like the attack on Fort Sumter in 1861. Or the attack on the battleship Maine in Havana harbor in 1898. Or the brief and "unimaginably small" attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941. Or the "surgical and precise" attacks on New York and D.C. in 2001. None of these served the purpose of warning us off and encouraging us to mind our own business; in each case, the loss was catastrophic for the attacker. It is much more effective to turn the source of the offense into a glowing glass parking lot, since that is far more likely to get the attention of those who reject reality in favor of their own fantasies.
    I really have little to say to the "sea of glass/parking lot" kind of guys.

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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    I was just asking where the examples were, if any, of Christian "radicals" doing what Muslims are doing around the world

    Thanks for clarifying
    There are radicals in the Christian ranks that have attacked non Christian church's, blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors. They lead people into situations like Georgetown and Waco, the Christian community has radicals and some house cleaning to do themselves, now its clarified!

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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I think you could make a good argument that none of the extremists are working for Allah (or at least the peaceful version of Allah). And while the civilized world may "have killed more of them than the other way around" it is clear that we have not yet killed nearly enough of them.
    I agree that the extremists are not working for the peaceful version of Allah as the Christian extremists that blow up abortion clinics are not working for the peaceful version of Jesus.

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    Re: The religion of peace takes responsibility for the dozens slain in Nairobi.

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    They don't. But they do have people running around doing all manner of things in their name. If I were Muslim, I'd take offense at my religion being so denigrated and do something about it. The longer they remain intransigent over it, the wider the brush that paints them.
    I guess people don't pay attention to the Islamists who ARE intransigent.
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