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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I don't think you truly understand the mentality of the people involved. You're going to see the NG provoked into action, and it isn't going to be pretty.

    Here's some background of what's going on by knowing what went on and know it got handled, WITHOUT the NG

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    Also, as I said, this isn't a precedence you want to set. No military presence should be used for civilian domestic matters. None.


    Yeah, and then add the rest. Of course the Kings and their ties to Guzman, who deal not just in drugs but Military weapons and Ordinance.

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which is why these roaches need to be exterminated once and for all.
    As they are moved out of one area, we need a search-strike-destroy attitude on all the banger rats who flee.
    Yeah, well the Nation Guard is the US Army and you don't want the US Army in a US City. We were given the scenario a while back with the Movie the Siege with Bruce Willis and Annette Bening with Denzel Washington. It was pretty close to what will take place.


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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. So you're not concerned that the NG will be a loose cannon necessarily (as I maybe have been mistaking your argument), you seem to be saying that they will be provoked into action by criminal elements, and things could get out of control from there? Is that about right?

    I pulled up the video, but it's late here and I'll have to watch the 45 minute piece some other time. Maybe you could share some of the big points for time's sake.
    I'm concerned about the whole damn thing. The NG aren't trained to police civilians and these civilians don't give a rat's ass about shooting up cops or whoever else comes their way.

    The bottom line of the video is that it showed two extreme areas which now are no more and it was taken care of without the NG.

    Does anyone stop to think why Rahm dissolved the Gang Task force? Why every so often before or after another shoot'em up some politician or local figure is calling for Homeland or the NG or some other military force?

    and isn't it convenient that the man who is POTUS whose former CoS, now Mayor of the City both of them come from called for a domestic military organization to be developed and equipped to handle these vary tasks with the firepower of the US military, is everyone a little cagoots or is everyone else not seeing the writing on the wall?

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    What about when Daley jr tore down The Robert Taylor Buildings.....didn't use any NG. Immediately reduced the significance of the Bangers down in that area. Course pretty much all else too.

    Quinn may consider it.....but I doubt he wants to hand over a city to the Military. Not a smart move. Moreover if they just go by area. Say the South Side. The bangers and negative element will just move their business elsewhere.
    It sent them to Park Forest and Richton Park, to the Heights, and down to Kankakee and them parts...

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    This time is like no other Chez.
    I've been outfront wanting the NG to backup the City Police who would go in.
    Once control is established on a block, NG takes over that block and Police move to the next.
    I also support CC for the honest folks up where you live and down here. Go Bears.

    I hear that every 10 years, these kids, they're a new breed, they craaaaaazy, yada yada yada...

    Put a gun in every home, allow Castle and SyG laws to pass and watch the streets clean themselves, hell half the honest folk walk around with a pocket pistol, might as well make it legal and encourage it.

    You don't want the military policing citizens, I can only say this so many times...

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I'm concerned about the whole damn thing. The NG aren't trained to police civilians and these civilians don't give a rat's ass about shooting up cops or whoever else comes their way.

    The bottom line of the video is that it showed two extreme areas which now are no more and it was taken care of without the NG.

    Does anyone stop to think why Rahm dissolved the Gang Task force? Why every so often before or after another shoot'em up some politician or local figure is calling for Homeland or the NG or some other military force?

    and isn't it convenient that the man who is POTUS whose former CoS, now Mayor of the City both of them come from called for a domestic military organization to be developed and equipped to handle these vary tasks with the firepower of the US military, is everyone a little cagoots or is everyone else not seeing the writing on the wall?
    Not too familiar with the local politics there, maybe you could explain what you believe the motivations are. The whole thing seems like a big mess. Why would Rahm dissolve the gang task force? That seems dumb for a city like Chicago.

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I'm concerned about the whole damn thing. The NG aren't trained to police civilians and these civilians don't give a rat's ass about shooting up cops or whoever else comes their way.

    The bottom line of the video is that it showed two extreme areas which now are no more and it was taken care of without the NG.

    Does anyone stop to think why Rahm dissolved the Gang Task force? Why every so often before or after another shoot'em up some politician or local figure is calling for Homeland or the NG or some other military force?

    and isn't it convenient that the man who is POTUS whose former CoS, now Mayor of the City both of them come from called for a domestic military organization to be developed and equipped to handle these vary tasks with the firepower of the US military, is everyone a little cagoots or is everyone else not seeing the writing on the wall?
    Heya Chez.....Emanuel didn't stop them he had them combined with the Feds. Came online February this year. They came up with using the RICO's to go after the bangers now too.

    Chicago Drug Task Force Targets Cartel 'Choke Points'.....

    Seventy federal agents, police officers, and prosecutors recently started working there in what authorities say is a first-of-its-kind drug-fighting headquarters.

    It brings together the federal Drug Enforcement Administration; the FBI; the Internal Revenue Service; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives; the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration, and Customs Enforcement; the U.S. Marshals Service; Chicago and suburban police; and federal and state prosecutors.

    Working together around the clock, the aim is to end agency rivalries and miscommunications that can hurt investigations, Chicago DEA boss Jack Riley says.....snip~


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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    It sent them to Park Forest and Richton Park, to the Heights, and down to Kankakee and them parts...
    Yeah, I know into the suburbs and then also into Hammond and Gary Indiana.

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Chez.....Emanuel didn't stop them he had them combined with the Feds. Came online February this year. They came up with using the RICO's to go after the bangers now too.
    Emanuel announces that he will reassign 500 Chicago police officers to beat-cop positions. - Chicago Tribune

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    Re: Quinn: Id Consider Using National Guard, State Police To Help Chicago

    Yeah I know.....plus they want these Cops to start taking responsibility for the areas they are living in too. Moreover the split the city into North South and East and West Sides.


    West Cook task force increases gun, drug arrests
    WEDGE helps officers work together in near west suburbs

    WEDGE task force increases gun and drug arrests - Chicago Tribune

    Gang members charged with gun, drug trafficking
    Gang members charged with gun, drug trafficking - Chicago Tribune

    Gang Unit

    The Lake County Sheriff’s Gang Unit is comprised of seven Detectives and a HIDTA National Guard Intelligence officer.

    Covering all of Lake County, the Gang Unit's primary responsibility is focusing on criminal gang activity, identifying gang members and their territories, investigating drive-by shootings and deterring drug usage and sales by identifying and targeting known drug houses through interdiction.

    The Gang Unit works co-operatively with the Lake County Drug Task Force, the Lake County Tactical Team and several Federal Agencies in its on-going gang related investigations.

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