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    Re: Turkey vows 'necessary' action after Syria admits shooting down military plane

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Do not think so.
    Oh, you don't think so? Really? Is that why England is not with us? is that why France is now hedging about any action? Obama shot off his mouth about red lines then when Assad calculated that Obama wouldn't live up to his own rhetoric, and was right BTW, he crossed that line, and only so far saved Obama's arse to date by playing this current game with him...

    He may be appearing weak
    It's not an act dude, he is weak...On this anyway.

    but he is not a dictator.
    Oh he thinks he is....Ever listen to his domestic rhetoric?

    He has input from various intel organizations both inner and from allies.
    Yep, and when the rubber meets the road he is unable to, in this case, pull the trigger.

    Obama may appear weak to you from inside, but he has a role to play to us in the outside.
    Maybe that's the problem....He's playing a role, and not leading.

    A role is played by whichever guy you selected.
    I selected? Trust me when I say that I never selected this president...And I would NEVER select a progressive, Marxist wanna be to be president of this country.
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    Re: Turkey vows 'necessary' action after Syria admits shooting down military plane

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, you don't think so? Really? Is that why England is not with us? is that why France is now hedging about any action? Obama shot off his mouth about red lines then when Assad calculated that Obama wouldn't live up to his own rhetoric, and was right BTW, he crossed that line, and only so far saved Obama's arse to date by playing this current game with him...

    It's not an act dude, he is weak...On this anyway.

    Oh he thinks he is....Ever listen to his domestic rhetoric?

    Yep, and when the rubber meets the road he is unable to, in this case, pull the trigger.

    Maybe that's the problem....He's playing a role, and not leading.

    I selected? Trust me when I say that I never selected this president...And I would NEVER select a progressive, Marxist wanna be to be president of this country.
    So you do not like him and did not vote for him. Still he is the President of USA when it comes to international matters. Has a role to play.

    Negotiations are better unless Assad toys around with diplomats like Serbs and Milloschevich did. We all know how that ended so let us see what happens.
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    Re: Turkey vows 'necessary' action after Syria admits shooting down military plane

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    So you do not like him and did not vote for him. Still he is the President of USA when it comes to international matters. Has a role to play.
    So far, it seems that he is failing to lead period.

    Negotiations are better unless Assad toys around with diplomats like Serbs and Milloschevich did. We all know how that ended so let us see what happens.
    Meanwhile, people are still dying...And, if all Obama was ever going to do is "negotiate", then he shouldn't have tried the tough guy bluff with red lines and such....Either you think that the US's word should mean something, or you don't....
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    Re: Turkey vows 'necessary' action after Syria admits shooting down military plane

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So far, it seems that he is failing to lead period.

    Meanwhile, people are still dying...And, if all Obama was ever going to do is "negotiate", then he shouldn't have tried the tough guy bluff with red lines and such....Either you think that the US's word should mean something, or you don't....
    You are being too hard on your president. Give him some break for otherwise international rivals such as Russia uses this position of yours against you!

    Besides, this is a pattern. You know, George Bush the senior made a "red line" comment about Dardania also. When Serbs crossed it Clinton acted nearly a decade later.

    Sometimes it takes time. Easy!
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    Re: Turkey vows 'necessary' action after Syria admits shooting down military plane

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    You are being too hard on your president. Give him some break for otherwise international rivals such as Russia uses this position of yours against you!
    Russia is allied with Syria...What they do or say has little credence to me....As for being hard on Obama, maybe if he wasn't such a tool I wouldn't be...

    Besides, this is a pattern. You know, George Bush the senior made a "red line" comment about Dardania also. When Serbs crossed it Clinton acted nearly a decade later.

    Sometimes it takes time. Easy!
    Nonsense, Obama's stumbling, and bumbling into this latest dupe for time is not now, nor was it ever a planned strategy.
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