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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    And everything McCain said could be said about the US. If you are gonna throw stones make sure you don't live in a glass house as well.
    His glass house is being guarded by the Kongressional security forces.

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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Putin is the only reason we haven't bombed Syria by now.
    Correction: our threats of bombing Syria are the only thing that has made Putin and Assad negotiate on chemical weapons. Assad wouldn't even admit that he had any chemical weapons prior to our threat.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    For me, I'm glad the Russians stopped our military involvement in Syria.
    Yes I too am glad that Putin and Assad finally were willing to give in a little......after the threat of a US airstrike.
    Last edited by Wraith8; 09-20-13 at 10:50 AM.
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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    next month, he'll probably advocate bombing the Russians.

    Obama sucks on many issues, but i'm glad McCain didn't win. we'd be up to our ass in at least three wars right now if he had.

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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith8 View Post
    Correction: our threats of bombing Syria are the only thing that has made Putin and Assad negotiate on chemical weapons.

    Yes I too am glad that Putin and Assad finally were willing to give in a little......after the threat of a US airstrike.
    Getting Obama to stand down was a Russian initiative. The Russians have all the power with Assad because they support him. Obama has ceded all of America's influence in the Middle East to Russia who now support Iran, Syria, Iraq by way of Iran and in large measure Turkey. Libya is uncooperative with US interests because after the fall of Kadafi it's descended into chaos and Egypt is in a struggle with the Muslim brotherhood. America has no influence there. The rest of the Middle East gives tacit support to the Muslim Brotherhood that is attempting to rid all non Muslims from the Middle East. The US no longer has any influence in any country other than Israel and the leadership there tolerates Obama but relationships with him are strained.

    Basically, Obama's policy of appeasement and leading from behind has taken the US out of power in the Middle East and the only reason that we have not struck in Syria is that Russia has out matched the Obama administration tactically. Assad will keep his chemical weapons stockpile as Obama now drops this into the lap of the UN where nothing effective will happen because Russia and China control their actions.

    It's a mess because Obama doesn't know what he's doing, but that comes as no surprise.
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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Getting Obama to stand down was a Russian initiative.
    Unquestionable support of Assad seemed to be a Russian initiative....that is, until the threat of US airstrikes.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    The Russians have all the power with Assad because they support him.
    Apparently they don't have ALL the power considering how they're SUDDENLY now willing to give in a little.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Libya is uncooperative with US interests because after the fall of Kadafi it's descended into chaos and Egypt is in a struggle with the Muslim brotherhood. America has no influence there. The rest of the Middle East gives tacit support to the Muslim Brotherhood that is attempting to rid all non Muslims from the Middle East.
    Interesting how any and all US intervention in the Middle East is oh sooo horrible and yet Putin giving weapons to a dictator like Assad apparently doesn't warrant any criticism.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    America has no influence there.
    Unless we threaten to use military force....then suddenly we do. I wonder if there's any connection?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    and the only reason that we have not struck in Syria is that Russia has out matched the Obama administration tactically. .
    Or because Assad and Putin are finally cooperating a little. That could be the reason as well.
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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Wraith8 View Post
    Unquestionable support of Assad seemed to be a Russian initiative....that is, until the threat of US airstrikes.

    Apparently they don't have ALL the power considering how they're SUDDENLY now willing to give in a little.

    Interesting how any and all US intervention in the Middle East is oh sooo horrible and yet Putin giving weapons to a dictator like Assad apparently doesn't warrant any criticism.

    Unless we threaten to use military force....then suddenly we do. I wonder if there's any connection?

    Or because Assad and Putin are finally cooperating a little. That could be the reason as well.
    Putin gave Obama an out. He was trying to get Congress behind him and that was going to fail miserably. Obama should than his lucky stars that Putin saved his bacon.
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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    I personally find Putin hilarious .

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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    next month, he'll probably advocate bombing the Russians.

    Obama sucks on many issues, but i'm glad McCain didn't win. we'd be up to our ass in at least three wars right now if he had.
    As long as McSame isn't trying to fly an aircraft I am in, I no longer care what that irrelevant fossil thinks. I'm surprised he isn't dead already, to be honest. He looked like he had one foot in the grave last time he was on the world stage in 2008.

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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    I personally find Putin hilarious .
    That freak is more than mildly dangerous though.

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    Re: Senator John McCain: Russians deserve better than Putin - Pravada Article

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    That freak is more than mildly dangerous though.
    McCain and Putin are both monstrous clowns.
    Putin more dangerous than funny. McCain more funny than dangerous. Surprisingly I dislike McCain more though. At least Putin is looking out for his own country's interests in Supporting Assad. McCain wants to bomb Syria because defense contractors gave him nearly 180k in bribes.

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