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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Why don't you define what you want to do to them that the pope doesn't. I want all people to be treated equally and to have equal rights. How about you?



    I don't think ANYBODY, even the pope, has claimed that christians should advance or promote sin.

    Allowing people to have equal rights is not promoting sin.
    Changing the definition of marriage IS promoting their sin and advancing their sin.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Which also doesn't mean they should be shunned, segregated, separated, or condemned.

    They are, and should be treated as equal.
    I don't shun, segregate, separate, or condemn them (aside from their sin). I do treat them as equal.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I don't shun, segregate, separate, or condemn them (aside from their sin). I do treat them as equal.
    "(aside from their sin)" - but THAT right there is what you do.


    Everybody is a sinner. Everybody. You are sinner. So why do you continue to make a special note about the "gay sin"???

    Straight people are every bit as much sinners as gay people are.

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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Changing the definition of marriage IS promoting their sin and advancing their sin.

    Does marriage promote and advance the sin of straight people?

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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    "(aside from their sin)" - but THAT right there is what you do.


    Everybody is a sinner. Everybody. You are sinner. So why do you continue to make a special note about the "gay sin"???

    Straight people are every bit as much sinners as gay people are.
    Who said I make special note about gay sin and not all sin? That is where you assume.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Does marriage promote and advance the sin of straight people?
    No as the marriage is not sin. Comparing apples and oranges. A gay marriage in of itself is sin. That's the difference.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Changing the definition of marriage IS promoting their sin and advancing their sin.
    Nobody is asking christians to change THEIR definition of marriage.

    Christians did not invent marriage, nor do they hold a patent on it, so they do not get tto force their views on others.

    And I haven't seen any change in the definition of marriage. Its still a lifelong commitment between two people in love.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Christians did not invent marriage, nor do they hold a patent on it, so they do not get tto force their views on others.

    And I haven't seen any change in the definition of marriage. Its still a lifelong commitment between two people in love.
    God created marriage.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    God created marriage.
    If you can prove it in a court of law, we will change immediately. Otherwise it's just bigoted rambling.
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    Re: Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    If you can prove it in a court of law, we will change immediately. Otherwise it's just bigoted rambling.
    Prove that God created marriage? Why does that need to be proven in a court? Adam and Eve were the first marriage, and guess who joined them together? God. Historically documented in Genesis.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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