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Pope Francis: Church can't 'interfere' with gays

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disneydude said:
I know what the pope is saying...and he directed it DIRECTLY at those in the Catholic church that are overly focused on anti-gay and abortion issues without focusing on the majority of Catholic teaching.

I love how people like you LOVE to pick and choose what you want to fit your agenda. We call you guys "Cafeteria Catholics".
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Which makes him a false Pope. You're the one pushing a laughably phony agenda here. It's a waste of time even engaging you.

The Bible is very clear. The Church's teachings are very clear. God is very clear.

Homosexual sex is an abomination. The Pope can't change that fact. He can him and haw because he is influenced by Lady Gaga Pop Culture, but that's between The Pope and God. The Pope will have to answer for his sins just like the rest of us. Promoting deviant lifestyles is a sin. Jesus didn't promote deviant lifestyles in The Bible. On the contrary, he spoke out consistently against such mortal sins known as fornication(s) during his time.
 
SheWolf said:
Many posters in this thread make me feel embarrassed I am from the same country as them. Too much unnecessary ignorance is on display here.

It's sad religious people look so uncomfortable and ignorant about science, and can't tell the difference between facts and spiritual belief.

Many scientists believe in God, but no scientist could get away with the amount of ignorance and misguided understanding of logic and scientific method as this.
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Well, you're free to leave.

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Bronson said:
Which makes him a false Pope. You're the one pushing a laughably phony agenda here. It's a waste of time even engaging you.

The Bible is very clear. The Church's teachings are very clear. God is very clear.

Homosexual sex is an abomination. The Pope can't change that fact. He can him and haw because he is influenced by Lady Gaga Pop Culture, but that's between The Pope and God. The Pope will have to answer for his sins just like the rest of us. Promoting deviant lifestyles is a sin. Jesus didn't promote deviant lifestyles in The Bible. On the contrary, he spoke out consistently against such mortal sins known as fornication(s) during his time.
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I think you'd be very hard pressed to find somebody who's opining on this thread who has actually read then lengthy interview from which the media has plucked little sound "bytes."
 
Are you catholic?


Bronson said:
Which makes him a false Pope. You're the one pushing a laughably phony agenda here. It's a waste of time even engaging you.

The Bible is very clear. The Church's teachings are very clear. God is very clear.

Homosexual sex is an abomination. The Pope can't change that fact. He can him and haw because he is influenced by Lady Gaga Pop Culture, but that's between The Pope and God. The Pope will have to answer for his sins just like the rest of us. Promoting deviant lifestyles is a sin. Jesus didn't promote deviant lifestyles in The Bible. On the contrary, he spoke out consistently against such mortal sins known as fornication(s) during his time.
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Bronson said:
Which makes him a false Pope. You're the one pushing a laughably phony agenda here. It's a waste of time even engaging you.

The Bible is very clear. The Church's teachings are very clear. God is very clear.

Homosexual sex is an abomination. The Pope can't change that fact. He can him and haw because he is influenced by Lady Gaga Pop Culture, but that's between The Pope and God. The Pope will have to answer for his sins just like the rest of us. Promoting deviant lifestyles is a sin. Jesus didn't promote deviant lifestyles in The Bible. On the contrary, he spoke out consistently against such mortal sins known as fornication(s) during his time.
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Those. Always see clarity seldom not what the hell they are talking about.
 
Bronson said:
Which makes him a false Pope. You're the one pushing a laughably phony agenda here. It's a waste of time even engaging you.

The Bible is very clear. The Church's teachings are very clear. God is very clear.

Homosexual sex is an abomination. The Pope can't change that fact. He can him and haw because he is influenced by Lady Gaga Pop Culture, but that's between The Pope and God. The Pope will have to answer for his sins just like the rest of us. Promoting deviant lifestyles is a sin. Jesus didn't promote deviant lifestyles in The Bible. On the contrary, he spoke out consistently against such mortal sins known as fornication(s) during his time.
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Like throwing the first stone?

Jesus, btw, said nothing at all about homosexuality. That's just a fact.
 
Boo Radley said:
Like throwing the first stone?

Jesus, btw, said nothing at all about homosexuality. That's just a fact.
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You're like a broken record, ignorantly repeating garbage you know nothing about

Jesus was a Rabbi. You know about them don't you? Jesus spoke on many occasions against fornication(s). One of those fornication(s) being homosexual sex. In other words Jesus didn't need to say the word homosexuality to have denounced filthy sodomy behavior. Anyone who tries to claim Jesus somehow would have approved of sodomy is an ignorant fool pushing some hardcore Gay Thumper propaganda. It's simply such a laughable premise that nothing more needs to be said.

God and Jesus are the same entity. The words God spoke in the Old Testament are the words of Jesus

You just don't fundamentally understand what Catholicism is. You're running around like a toddler in this thread looking foolish. Anyways, good luck convincing people Jesus thought sticking your pp in dirty holes was normal. :2wave:
 
davidtaylorjr said:
I can't help it if you and others around here can't accept scientific evidence because it debunks your beliefs. And yes, that is the biased mod team.
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You don't provide scientific evidence probably because you can't. The bible is not scientific evidence. It does not follow the scientific model. You can't find ONE source that supports any of your positions that follows the scientific model which is why each and every one of your positions gets regularly destroyed. And what do you do? You blame your failures on others.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
I can't help it if you and others around here can't accept scientific evidence because it debunks your beliefs. And yes, that is the biased mod team.
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Are you really calling the bible scientific proof?

I guess you're one of those people who believe god is just a trickster who placed an unbelievable amount of evidence that the earth is much, much older than 6,000 years old, when it really wasn't? What a joker that guy must be. Why would he do that?
 
davidtaylorjr said:
I can't help it if you and others around here can't accept scientific evidence because it debunks your beliefs. And yes, that is the biased mod team.
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You have yet to cite a single actual piece of scientific evidence.

Remember the earlier time? Where you posted pictures of a 3 toed/no toed footprint roughly a size 20 where the impression was done by a person wearing a boot (heel toe rather than how early man walked toe heel) and said it was proof man walked with dinosaurs? And how you promptly ran away from defending it?

Your definition of a scientific fact is "whatever I feel like."

Even AiG doesn't use the "arguments" you use.
 
Boo Radley said:
That's true. But then again, she has a point. :coffeepap
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Yes, and the point is: Everyone I disagree with is an idiot.

It's a very enlightened Maher-esque type of point.
 
SheWolf said:
so what?

A Hindu person could argue like you are. It's a fact there are many gods. It's a fact there is no heaven or hell, but reincarnation. It's a fact you are wrong.

Telling you that your religious beliefs are beliefs and not facts, is not an insult to your religion. CC isn't even atheist, nor am I.

But come on, religious faith and facts are two different concepts.
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Christianity is fact.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You don't provide scientific evidence probably because you can't. The bible is not scientific evidence. It does not follow the scientific model. You can't find ONE source that supports any of your positions that follows the scientific model which is why each and every one of your positions gets regularly destroyed. And what do you do? You blame your failures on others.
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No, you told me I can't provide the proof because YOU won't accept it. In fact, when I did provide proof in another thread you gave me a thread ban.
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Carbon dating proven to be not accurate.
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Source?

And what about the other links I provided?
The many sources that suggest the Earth is over 4 billion years old?
The fossils dating back 75 million years?

Where is your evidence that all the science behind that stuff is based on lies and/or false methods?
 
Dragonfly said:
Source?

And what about the other links I provided?
The many sources that suggest the Earth is over 4 billion years old?
The fossils dating back 75 million years?

Where is your evidence that all the science behind that stuff is based on lies and/or false methods?
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Doesn
 
davidtaylorjr said:
Doesn
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From the article...

When a scientist’s interpretation of data does not match the clear meaning of the text in the Bible, we should never reinterpret the Bible. God knows just what He meant to say, and His understanding of science is infallible, whereas ours is fallible.
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:lamo :lamo
 
davidtaylorjr said:
It's true though. Man is not all-knowing, God is.
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1) the bible wasn't written by god.

2) man might not be all knowing. But the Article is garbage, it doesn't even come close to disproving carbon dating and niether do you.

The only thing your proving at the moment is blind faith can be bad for you.
 
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