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Thread: McCain To Russia: 'Putin Doesn't Respect You'

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    Re: McCain To Russia: 'Putin Doesn't Respect You'

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But how do we do that with things where Putin's being a pain in the ass, purely to be pain in the ass? Russian power is declining and to me, it looks like Russia is trying to grab whatever power and influence it can. Unfortunately, that has resorted to them being obstacles to get what they want.
    Of course Russian power is declining. That's part of what's amplifying Russia's fears. Russia is desperate to demonstrate that it remains a global player. I do believe Senator Kerry is doing a good job vis--vis the Syria issue.

    Putin will invoke whatever he can to advance Russia's interests. For him, the ends justify the means. On the surface, one can describe such actions as hypocritical. But the total pursuit of Russia's interests is what's driving Russian decision making.
    Not with Obama at the helm and definitely not with Congress in the shape it's in now. Our Federal government leadership is a giant mess. And the US can't call upon its allies anymore. When Cameron gets defeated at home and Hollande is facing stiff resistance, what are we going to do?
    Were U.S. and British interests in Syria larger than they really are, I still believe both leaders could have attained the support they needed. The reality is that the interests for both countries (France has somewhat larger interests, but those have eroded, too) are peripheral. Invoking military action for humanitarian ends, especially when the outcome is unclear and both parties to the conflict have demonstrated brutality in abundance, is a difficult sell. Had Syria posed a credible and imminent threat of using such weapons against Israel or Jordan, the outcome would have been far different.

    In the longer-term, I agree that the U.S. has become quite dysfunctional in the foreign policy realm. Things need to improve or there will be a time when major U.S. interests could be compromised.

    I read World War Z a while ago and it's starting to resemble reality. Our foreign engagements have bled us dry in blood and treasure and now our populations have no stomach for anything.
    This is hampering our combined capacity to do much of anything. We went to an extreme invading and nation building and now the pendulum has swung back and it's isolationism. I don't see how we're going to get out of this any time soon.
    I believe it's going to be a long and difficult process. Unless the nation's long-term imbalances are addressed so as to give it greater fiscal flexibility elsewhere, resources will continue to impose heavy constraints.

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    Re: McCain To Russia: 'Putin Doesn't Respect You'

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Of course Russian power is declining.
    As usual, we don't disagree. I don't see the point in quoting things I entirely agree with.

    Anyways, you read World War Z? It's quite scary how Western governments are starting to resemble the fictional depictions of Western governments in the book.
    "If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him." - Sun Tzu

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