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Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

I'm not surprised you've been influenced by the Blame America First people and it's certainly having an effect on the character and culture of the country. This does not bode well for anyone.

Except they've been influenced by me. You know what Grant, I know I'm just another punk voicing my opinion on the Internet to you, and that's fair, you don't know me. But for what little it may be worth to you, I'm fiercely independent and my anxiety and anger over the US killing of civilians in the ME (and elsewhere) is MINE!
 
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I'm not surprised you've been influenced by the Blame America First people and it's certainly having an effect on the character and culture of the country. This does not bode well for anyone.

Says the guy who backs Russia over his own country.
 
I'm not surprised you've been influenced by the Blame America First people and it's certainly having an effect on the character and culture of the country. This does not bode well for anyone.

Say Grant, do you have any knowledge of CIA activity in Latin America say between the 50's and 80's?
 
Says the guy who backs Russia over his own country.

Now you know that isn't true. What I did say that Putin is much smarter than Barrack Obama and, apart from the hard core Kool Aid drinkers, that's pretty much accepted everywhere.
 
Have you any credible sources?

Now Reuters is not credible? I think you are the one whose losing credibility here.
 
Now you know that isn't true. What I did say that Putin is much smarter than Barrack Obama and, apart from the hard core Kool Aid drinkers, that's pretty much accepted everywhere.

Putin said something negative about Obama so you and your buddies felt obligated to kiss his ass.
 
Putin said something negative about Obama so you and your buddies felt obligated to kiss his ass.

If you feel Barrack Obama's policies in the Middle East have met with any success why not point them out?
 
If you feel Barrack Obama's policies in the Middle East have met with any success why not point them out?

Getting Syria to get rid of their chemical weapons and making russia our bitch in carrying it out all without firing a shot. Put all the spin on it you want. That's how it is.
 
I certainly do, In fact I'm in Central America at this very moment.

I love Costa Rica. You familiar with the democratically elected governments that the CIA overthrew and in many cases replaced with dictators that horribly abused their citizens to the advancement of US international corporations? America is my country, that's why I'm critical of it, America living up to the "shinning city on a hill" is what I'm about. My criticisms are mine, from my heart, and not knee jerk reactions to things said by some who may have ulterior motives. Be safe down there buddy!
 
I love Costa Rica. You familiar with the democratically elected governments that the CIA overthrew and in many cases replaced with dictators that horribly abused their citizens to the advancement of US international corporations? America is my country, that's why I'm critical of it, America living up to the "shinning city on a hill" is what I'm about. My criticisms are mine, from my heart, and not knee jerk reactions to things said by some who may have ulterior motives. Be safe down there buddy!

Why not point out those countries you're referring to?

Central America is now communist-free and democracies are everywhere, thanks to the American people and their leadership. I cannot understand why you think this is a bad thing.

And certainly you are under the influence of the Blame America First crowd, even if you are not aware of it. Your statements about the CIA, for example, belie your genuine sentiments.

Thanks for the advice!
 
Getting Syria to get rid of their chemical weapons and making russia our bitch in carrying it out all without firing a shot. Put all the spin on it you want. That's how it is.

You've a good point putting it that way, although we should keep in mind that the US not still attacking Syria is anything but certain, this could be a win win for all parties involved. But the US (Obama) would have to end this INSANITY of arming, training and giving material aid to terrorists that we are suppose to be at war with. I just don't see how soldiers are keeping their heads from exploding over this.
 
Getting Syria to get rid of their chemical weapons and making russia our bitch in carrying it out all without firing a shot. Put all the spin on it you want. That's how it is.

Syria hasn't done squat yet. But leave it to a liberal to stumble into a situation, not recognize how they are being used, and re write events as though that is what they meant to do all along....no one buys it for a second.
 
Syria hasn't done squat yet. But leave it to a liberal to stumble into a situation, not recognize how they are being used, and re write events as though that is what they meant to do all along....no one buys it for a second.

Spin all you want. That's how this is playing out. That your feelings are hurt because something is going good for America when the guy in the whitehouse doesn't have an (R) next to his name... not my problem.
 
Spin all you want. That's how this is playing out. That your feelings are hurt because something is going good for America when the guy in the whitehouse doesn't have an (R) next to his name... not my problem.

:lamo now that is funny.
 
Syria hasn't done squat yet. But leave it to a liberal to stumble into a situation, not recognize how they are being used, and re write events as though that is what they meant to do all along....no one buys it for a second.

I didn't take the response very seriously but it would be interesting to know how,when and where Syria got rid of its chemical weapons. Those would probably be the same chemical weapons that Iraq was accused of sending over to Syria while the Allied forces waited on the sidelines.
 
Why not point out those countries you're referring to?

Central America is now communist-free and democracies are everywhere, thanks to the American people and their leadership. I cannot understand why you think this is a bad thing.

And certainly you are under the influence of the Blame America First crowd, even if you are not aware of it. Your statements about the CIA, for example, belie your genuine sentiments.

Thanks for the advice!

This is not an exhaustive list.

Iran – CIA overthrows the democratically elected Mohammed Mossadegh in a military coup, after he threatened to nationalize British oil. The CIA replaces him with a dictator, the Shah of Iran, whose secret police, SAVAK, is as brutal as the Gestapo.

Operation MK-ULTRA — Inspired by North Korea’s brainwashing program, the CIA begins experiments on mind control. The most notorious part of this project involves giving LSD and other drugs to American subjects without their knowledge or against their will, causing several to commit suicide. However, the operation involves far more than this. Funded in part by the Rockefeller and Ford foundations, research includes propaganda, brainwashing, public relations, advertising, hypnosis, and other forms of suggestion.

1954

Guatemala — CIA overthrows the democratically elected Jacob Arbenz in a military coup. Arbenz has threatened to nationalize the Rockefeller-owned United Fruit Company, in which CIA Director Allen Dulles also owns stock. Arbenz is replaced with a series of right-wing dictators whose bloodthirsty policies will kill over 100,000 Guatemalans in the next 40 years.

1954-1958

North Vietnam — CIA officer Edward Lansdale spends four years trying to overthrow the communist government of North Vietnam, using all the usual dirty tricks. The CIA also attempts to legitimize a tyrannical puppet regime in South Vietnam, headed by Ngo Dinh Diem. These efforts fail to win the hearts and minds of the South Vietnamese because the Diem government is opposed to true democracy, land reform and poverty reduction measures. The CIA’s continuing failure results in escalating American intervention, culminating in the Vietnam War.

1956

Hungary — Radio Free Europe incites Hungary to revolt by broadcasting Khruschev’s Secret Speech, in which he denounced Stalin. It also hints that American aid will help the Hungarians fight. This aid fails to materialize as Hungarians launch a doomed armed revolt, which only invites a major Soviet invasion. The conflict kills 7,000 Soviets and 30,000 Hungarians.

1957-1973

Laos — The CIA carries out approximately one coup per year trying to nullify Laos’ democratic elections. The problem is the Pathet Lao, a leftist group with enough popular support to be a member of any coalition government. In the late 50s, the CIA even creates an "Armee Clandestine" of Asian mercenaries to attack the Pathet Lao. After the CIA’s army suffers numerous defeats, the U.S. starts bombing, dropping more bombs on Laos than all the U.S. bombs dropped in World War II. A quarter of all Laotians will eventually become refugees, many living in caves.

1959

Haiti — The U.S. military helps "Papa Doc" Duvalier become dictator of Haiti. He creates his own private police force, the "Tonton Macoutes," who terrorize the population with machetes. They will kill over 100,000 during the Duvalier family reign. The U.S. does not protest their dismal human rights record.

1961

The Bay of Pigs — The CIA sends 1,500 Cuban exiles to invade Castro’s Cuba. But "Operation Mongoose" fails, due to poor planning, security and backing. The planners had imagined that the invasion will spark a popular uprising against Castro -– which never happens. A promised American air strike also never occurs. This is the CIA’s first public setback, causing President Kennedy to fire CIA Director Allen Dulles.

Dominican Republic — The CIA assassinates Rafael Trujillo, a murderous dictator Washington has supported since 1930. Trujillo’s business interests have grown so large (about 60 percent of the economy) that they have begun competing with American business interests.

Ecuador — The CIA-backed military forces the democratically elected President Jose Velasco to resign. Vice President Carlos Arosemana replaces him; the CIA fills the now vacant vice presidency with its own man.

Congo (Zaire) — The CIA assassinates the democratically elected Patrice Lumumba. However, public support for Lumumba’s politics runs so high that the CIA cannot clearly install his opponents in power. Four years of political turmoil follow.

1963

Dominican Republic — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Juan Bosch in a military coup. The CIA installs a repressive, right-wing junta.

Ecuador — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows President Arosemana, whose independent (not socialist) policies have become unacceptable to Washington. A military junta assumes command, cancels the 1964 elections, and begins abusing human rights.

1964

Brazil — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the democratically elected government of Joao Goulart. The junta that replaces it will, in the next two decades, become one of the most bloodthirsty in history. General Castelo Branco will create Latin America’s first death squads, or bands of secret police who hunt down "communists" for torture, interrogation and murder. Often these "communists" are no more than Branco’s political opponents. Later it is revealed that the CIA trains the death squads.

1965

Indonesia — The CIA overthrows the democratically elected Sukarno with a military coup. The CIA has been trying to eliminate Sukarno since 1957, using everything from attempted assassination to sexual intrigue, for nothing more than his declaring neutrality in the Cold War. His successor, General Suharto, will massacre between 500,000 to 1 million civilians accused of being "communist." The CIA supplies the names of countless suspects.

Dominican Republic — A popular rebellion breaks out, promising to reinstall Juan Bosch as the country’s elected leader. The revolution is crushed when U.S. Marines land to uphold the military regime by force. The CIA directs everything behind the scenes.

Greece — With the CIA’s backing, the king removes George Papandreous as prime minister. Papandreous has failed to vigorously support U.S. interests in Greece.

Congo (Zaire) — A CIA-backed military coup installs Mobutu Sese Seko as dictator. The hated and repressive Mobutu exploits his desperately poor country for billions.

1966

The Ramparts Affair — The radical magazine Ramparts begins a series of unprecedented anti-CIA articles. Among their scoops: the CIA has paid the University of Michigan $25 million dollars to hire "professors" to train South Vietnamese students in covert police methods. MIT and other universities have received similar payments. Ramparts also reveals that the National Students’ Association is a CIA front. Students are sometimes recruited through blackmail and bribery, including draft deferments.

1967

Greece — A CIA-backed military coup overthrows the government two days before the elections. The favorite to win was George Papandreous, the liberal candidate. During the next six years, the "reign of the colonels" — backed by the CIA — will usher in the widespread use of torture and murder against political opponents. When a Greek ambassador objects to President Johnson about U.S. plans for Cypress, Johnson tells him: "**** your parliament and your constitution."

Operation PHEONIX — The CIA helps South Vietnamese agents identify and then murder alleged Viet Cong leaders operating in South Vietnamese villages. According to a 1971 congressional report, this operation killed about 20,000 "Viet Cong."

1968

Operation CHAOS — The CIA has been illegally spying on American citizens since 1959, but with Operation CHAOS, President Johnson dramatically boosts the effort. CIA agents go undercover as student radicals to spy on and disrupt campus organizations protesting the Vietnam War. They are searching for Russian instigators, which they never find. CHAOS will eventually spy on 7,000 individuals and 1,000 organizations.

Bolivia — A CIA-organized military operation captures legendary guerilla Che Guevara. The CIA wants to keep him alive for interrogation, but the Bolivian government executes him to prevent worldwide calls for clemency.

1969

Uruguay — The notorious CIA torturer Dan Mitrione arrives in Uruguay, a country torn with political strife. Whereas right-wing forces previously used torture only as a last resort, Mitrione convinces them to use it as a routine, widespread practice. "The precise pain, in the precise place, in the precise amount, for the desired effect," is his motto. The torture techniques he teaches to the death squads rival the Nazis’. He eventually becomes so feared that revolutionaries will kidnap and murder him a year later.

1970

Cambodia — The CIA overthrows Prince Sahounek, who is highly popular among Cambodians for keeping them out of the Vietnam War. He is replaced by CIA puppet Lon Nol, who immediately throws Cambodian troops into battle. This unpopular move strengthens once minor opposition parties like the Khmer Rouge, which achieves power in 1975 and massacres millions of its own people.

1971

Bolivia — After half a decade of CIA-inspired political turmoil, a CIA-backed military coup overthrows the leftist President Juan Torres. In the next two years, dictator Hugo Banzer will have over 2,000 political opponents arrested without trial, then tortured, raped and executed.

Haiti — "Papa Doc" Duvalier dies, leaving his 19-year old son "Baby Doc" Duvalier the dictator of Haiti. His son continues his bloody reign with full knowledge of the CIA.

1972

The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective.

Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia.

Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company.

1973

Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.
 
I didn't take the response very seriously but it would be interesting to know how,when and where Syria got rid of its chemical weapons. Those would probably be the same chemical weapons that Iraq was accused of sending over to Syria while the Allied forces waited on the sidelines.

O.I.C. what this is:

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