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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    In ancient Persia one the greatest crimes that could be committed was to tell a lie. Also for a decent period of time you could say the Persians or Middle Easterns in general were a more "civilized" people than those of Europe.

    So although they may not be the most exemplary people on Earth right now, let's not deny them their place in history.
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm liking this guy... at least via comparison to his predecessors.

    Iran's president Rouhani: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Iranian President Hassan Rouhani told NBC News on Wednesday that the country will never develop nuclear weapons and that he has the clout to make a deal with the West on the disputed atomic program.

    “In its nuclear program, this government enters with full power and has complete authority,” Rouhani told Ann Curry, NBC News national and international correspondent and anchor at large, in his first interview with a U.S. news outlet since his election.

    “The problem won't be from our side,” he said at the presidential compound in Tehran. “We have sufficient political latitude to solve this problem.”

    “We consider war a weakness. Any government or administration that decides to wage a war, we consider a weakness. And any government that decides on peace, we look on it with respect to peace.”
    Well, he hasn't threatened to burn Israel off the face of the earth yet. That alone makes him better than Imadinnerjacket. I'm guardedly optimistic.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, he hasn't threatened to burn Israel off the face of the earth yet. That alone makes him better than Imadinnerjacket. I'm guardedly optimistic.
    Omg! That's great!
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I don't actually believe for second that Iran wouldn't build nuclear weapons. But I do hope that this president's commitment to peaceful use of nuclear technology will keep anyone from actually firing nukes at anyone. We shouldn't be fooled, but we should be hopeful.
    You may be more hopeful than I - but I agree, I don't believe this for a second either. It's unfortunate that the President really is a figure head / mouth piece. The real power is with the Khomeini.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, he hasn't threatened to burn Israel off the face of the earth yet. That alone makes him better than Imadinnerjacket. I'm guardedly optimistic.
    Of course he could flip out... but as of now, I'm very optimistic.


    Hassan Rouhani sets out his vision for a new and free Iran
    Outline of nuclear deal begins to emerge before UN debut as president says people should 'be completely free in private life'

    "We want the people in their private life to be completely free," the newly elected president told NBC News, after a string of prisoner releases. He also pledged to create a citizens' rights commission "in the near future".

    "In today's world, having access to information and the right of free dialogue and the right to think freely is the right of all people, including the people of Iran," Rouhani said.
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I'm liking this guy... at least via comparison to his predecessors.
    He doesn't have power though. The power in the Iranian government is vested in the Mullahs.

    There are a few obvious signs that Iran is working on a bomb.

    A civilian power program would simply just buy the LEU off the world's markets and use it to generate power. The small amount of HEU it needs for research reactors would be way cheaper to simply buy rather than refine. And if Iran was serious about civilian only, they would have opened up entirely all of its sites to inspection. The cost structure alone of civilian is so exponentially less than what Iran has spent that it's basically inconceivable that they aren't trying to get nuclear weapons. In many ways, their program resembles the Israeli march to achieve nuclear weapons.

    When compared to say Argentina, who openly does all of its nuclear activities in public view, the Iranian program is by far more secretive. No one accuses the Argentinian government of a secret nuclear program. Argentina mines the uranium, sends it to the US for enrichment and then buys it back.
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Well, he hasn't threatened to burn Israel off the face of the earth yet. That alone makes him better than Imadinnerjacket. I'm guardedly optimistic.
    Ahmedinejad never did that. Stop spreading a lie.
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    He doesn't have power though. The power in the Iranian government is vested in the Mullahs.

    There are a few obvious signs that Iran is working on a bomb.

    A civilian power program would simply just buy the LEU off the world's markets and use it to generate power. The small amount of HEU it needs for research reactors would be way cheaper to simply buy rather than refine. And if Iran was serious about civilian only, they would have opened up entirely all of its sites to inspection. The cost structure alone of civilian is so exponentially less than what Iran has spent that it's basically inconceivable that they aren't trying to get nuclear weapons. In many ways, their program resembles the Israeli march to achieve nuclear weapons.

    When compared to say Argentina, who openly does all of its nuclear activities in public view, the Iranian program is by far more secretive. No one accuses the Argentinian government of a secret nuclear program. Argentina mines the uranium, sends it to the US for enrichment and then buys it back.
    Argentina isn't a strategic opponent of the US. Iran very clearly has taken the Iraq fiasco into account in determining how it handles UN weapons inspections. Further, so far as I know, there hasn't been much "secret" to the Iranian nuclear program in terms of how much uranium they have and what they're doing with it.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Ahmedinejad never did that. Stop spreading a lie.
    Doesn't matter what the Iranian President says or does. He's a figurehead. Especially after h0w the Khatami administration gave the Mullahs a run for their money on liberalization, the office lost what little power it had.
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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Doesn't matter what the Iranian President says or does. He's a figurehead. Especially after h0w the Khatami administration gave the Mullahs a run for their money on liberalization, the office lost what little power it had.
    If it doesn't matter then it wouldn't be continuously repeated. It obviously has enormous propaganda value or people wouldn't continually repeat it when it is completely and 100% confirmed to be false.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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