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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The problem with these cut and paste posts is that they are so very distorted and one-sided that it would take a huge amount of time to respond to each point.

    But if you feel the United States is a force for evil in the world then there is nothing I can do or say that would convince you otherwise.

    Personally I believe the USA has been the strongest force for good in the world, bar none, with only Britain comparing.
    When we're right we are right, when we're good we are good. But you really are disputing the CIA's covert operations throughout Latin America. And the governments support of dictatorships there? If so, then like you said, there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. Despite the fact there are troves of sources for the democracies that the US toppled in favour of dictators that benefited US international corporations.

    And Britain! Jesus. Horrible atrocities during their days of imperialism.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    When we're right we are right, when we're good we are good. But you really are disputing the CIA's covert operations throughout Latin America.
    Nowhere did I say that.

    And the governments support of dictatorships there?
    How many dictatorships remain? You seem to feel that all dictatorships are the same, which is not true at all.

    If so, then like you said, there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. Despite the fact there are troves of sources for the democracies that the US toppled in favour of dictators that benefited US international corporations.
    It is a better world we have today because of the actions of the United States and people who lived under the dictatorships, particularly Communist dictatorships, are very very grateful. You seem to reading the communist propaganda of some 30 years ago.
    And Britain! Jesus. Horrible atrocities during their days of imperialism.
    I may be wrong, certainly. Which countries do you think were a greater force for good in the world than Britain and the United States?

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is a better world we have today because of the actions of the United States and people who lived under the dictatorships, particularly Communist dictatorships, are very very grateful. You seem to reading the communist propaganda of some 30 years ago.
    Your pretending that the governments that the CIA overthrew led to Central and South America being the democracies they are today. There's no evidence of that at all. In fact in Guatamala...

    In 1992, the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to Rigoberta Menchú for her efforts to bring international attention to the government-sponsored, US backed genocide against the indigenous population...

    ...CIA trained paramilitaries were responsible for over 93 percent of the human rights violations during the war.

    The Guatemalan Civil War ended in 1996 with a peace accord between the guerrillas and the government, negotiated by the United Nations through intense brokerage by nations such as Norway and Spain.

    So when the U.S. stopped sticking it's nose in another country's business, the atrocities came to an end. And that's just Guatamala. The U.S. government didn't broker the peace deal, the U.N. did.

    The U.S. does a lot of good but to pretend that central and south America would never be where they are without the U.S. is patently false. In some instances the U.S. made things much worse and slowed down progress.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Your pretending that the governments that the CIA overthrew led to Central and South America being the democracies they are today. There's no evidence of that at all. In fact in Guatamala...


    So when the U.S. stopped sticking it's nose in another country's business, the atrocities came to an end. And that's just Guatamala. The U.S. government didn't broker the peace deal, the U.N. did.

    The U.S. does a lot of good but to pretend that central and south America would never be where they are without the U.S. is patently false. In some instances the U.S. made things much worse and slowed down progress.
    US backed genocide! Which is why I say its bull**** when US presidents start wringing their hands about human rights abuses here and yonder and we need to go in and bomb the hell out of them to put an end to it.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Your pretending that the governments that the CIA overthrew led to Central and South America being the democracies they are today. There's no evidence of that at all. In fact in Guatamala...
    Leftists lies and distortions till live on, despite the Cold war being done and dusted for over two decades. Why not do some research before you make false claims that should be known to everyone? Marxist Fraud Finally Exposed
    So when the U.S. stopped sticking it's nose in another country's business, the atrocities came to an end. And that's just Guatamala. The U.S. government didn't broker the peace deal, the U.N. did.
    The UN?? When was the UN in Guatemala??
    The U.S. does a lot of good but to pretend that central and south America would never be where they are without the U.S. is patently false. In some instances the U.S. made things much worse and slowed down progress.
    This is abysmal. Try reading the Black Book of Communism to see what really went on in Central America. I've been all over the place and have talked to people who actually live here and they verify what the Black Book says. I don't mean to insult you, I really don't, but this dumbing down of the American people against their own country is one of the greatest tragedies of the modern era.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    US backed genocide! .
    Genocide?

    How ironic,considering your support for the Iranian proxy group Hizb'allah that has called for a genocide against Jews.
    "you're better off on Stormfront discussing how evil brown men are taking innocent white flowers." Infinite Chaos

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    US backed genocide! Which is why I say its bull**** when US presidents start wringing their hands about human rights abuses here and yonder and we need to go in and bomb the hell out of them to put an end to it.
    Any beef in particular you might have?

    What about those countries which have had a more positive influence on the world than Britain and the United States? Completed your research yet?

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

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    Genocide?

    How ironic,considering your support for the Iranian proxy group Hizb'allah that has called for a genocide against Jews.
    I do not support Hezbollah. And would not wish for a genocide on the Jews. But then that's hyperbole because they aren't capable of doing that anyway.

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Any beef in particular you might have?

    What about those countries which have had a more positive influence on the world than Britain and the United States? Completed your research yet?

    You list two imperialistic countries as your models. Lmao. Not to distract from any and all good that the US has/does do. My beef is with the atrocities. Which you pretend don't exist. Btw, which CA country are you in?

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    Re: Iran: We will never develop nuclear weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I do not support Hezbollah. And would not wish for a genocide on the Jews. But then that's hyperbole because they aren't capable of doing that anyway.
    Right now it's a slow attempt at genocide, though they are moving as quickly as third world countries are capable. Many leftists are obviously getting impatient.

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