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    Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights - ABC News

    Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    WASHINGTON September 18, 2013 (AP)
    By SAM HANANEL Associated Press






    Legally married same-sex couples have the right to participate in employee benefit plans even if they live in states that don't recognize their union, the Labor Department said Wednesday.
    The new guidance means gay spouses enjoy the same federal rights as other married couples when it comes to pensions, 401Ks, health plans and other similar benefits.
    It is the latest effort by the Obama administration to clarify questions left unanswered after the Supreme Court's landmark ruling in June which invalidated part of the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act. The interpretation is consistent with a ruling from the Internal Revenue Service last month that legally married gay couples can file joint federal tax returns even if they reside in states that do not recognize same-sex marriages.
    "This decision represents a historic step toward equality for all American families, and I have directed the department's agency heads to ensure that they are implementing the decision in a way that provides maximum protection for workers and their families," said Labor Secretary Thomas Perez.
    The agency said the terms "spouse" and "marriage" in the Employee Retirement Income Security Act should be read to include same-sex couples regardless of where they currently reside. That means a gay couple that marries legally in Minnesota or New York can still participate equally in retirement and other federal employee benefits if they move to Florida, where gay marriage is not legal.
    The interpretation "provides a uniform rule of recognition that can be applied with certainty by stakeholders, including employers, plan administrators, participants, and beneficiaries," the agency said.
    Groups that represent large employers welcomed the guidance, saying it makes it easier for companies operating across the country to have uniform rules to follow when it comes to issues like spousal consent on distribution of benefits and survivorship rights. Gay marriage is currently legal in 13 states and the District of Columbia. The new guidance extends federal employee benefit rights to married same-sex couples in the other 37 states even those that have laws refusing to recognize same-sex marriages performed elsewhere.
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    Labor Dept.: Same-sex spouses have employee benefit rights regardless of residence - The Washington Post
    Labor Dept: same-sex spouses can participate in benefit plans | Reuters
    Labor Department: Gay Married Couples Have Benefit Plan Rights

    Another day another article!

    Seems we cant even go a week with out another stone placed in the road to equality.

    Like i said a bunch of times already, slowly but surely equal rights for gays is going to crush the bigotry and discrimination they face.

    The precedence that already exists, the fall of DOMA and the gain of federal benefits and protections is a very key element. Those states banning gay marriage are gonna make it easier in the long run.

    I actually cant express how happy these new victories make me.
    ""Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." Churchill

    well unfortunately we do make mistakes, we are taking the long way around in fixing these gross discriminatory practices BUT, we are now doing the right thing. There's light at the end of the tunnel on this subject and its NOT a train. Its the beacon of equality shinning through the darkness of hate, bigotry and discrimination. Its like a north star guiding us to righteousness and whats right.

    I personally am happy to be witness to it, to be a part of it, support it and help this great achievement for my country. In my life there were times where i never thought my eyes would actually witness equality for gays but now i know that is factually wrong. My doubts were premature,
    my disgust of bigotry and discrimination tarnished my outlook and hope. The vile ignorance and hate I've witness and heard with my own eyes and ears made me a pessimist on this issue and its a shame because thats not who i am, Im a optimist and im very ecstatic that this positive outlook is restored. While theres still many steps to go, im very proud of my country and the people responsible for helping equality win once again. Better late than never.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights - ABC News



    Back up links:
    Labor Dept.: Same-sex spouses have employee benefit rights regardless of residence - The Washington Post
    Labor Dept: same-sex spouses can participate in benefit plans | Reuters
    Labor Department: Gay Married Couples Have Benefit Plan Rights

    Another day another article!

    Seems we cant even go a week with out another stone placed in the road to equality.

    Like i said a bunch of times already, slowly but surely equal rights for gays is going to crush the bigotry and discrimination they face.

    The precedence that already exists, the fall of DOMA and the gain of federal benefits and protections is a very key element. Those states banning gay marriage are gonna make it easier in the long run.

    I actually cant express how happy these new victories make me.
    ""Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities." Churchill

    well unfortunately we do make mistakes, we are taking the long way around in fixing these gross discriminatory practices BUT, we are now doing the right thing. There's light at the end of the tunnel on this subject and its NOT a train. Its the beacon of equality shinning through the darkness of hate, bigotry and discrimination. Its like a north star guiding us to righteousness and whats right.

    I personally am happy to be witness to it, to be a part of it, support it and help this great achievement for my country. In my life there were times where i never thought my eyes would actually witness equality for gays but now i know that is factually wrong. My doubts were premature,
    my disgust of bigotry and discrimination tarnished my outlook and hope. The vile ignorance and hate I've witness and heard with my own eyes and ears made me a pessimist on this issue and its a shame because thats not who i am, Im a optimist and im very ecstatic that this positive outlook is restored. While theres still many steps to go, im very proud of my country and the people responsible for helping equality win once again. Better late than never.

    You seem obsessed with this issue, as far as I know you are not gay so do you have some gay family member that wants to get married or something? Honest question, I'm not baiting you.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Another Gay Thumper thread

    #smh

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You seem obsessed with this issue, as far as I know you are not gay so do you have some gay family member that wants to get married or something? Honest question, I'm not baiting you.
    no problem ill give you an honest answer, longer than you probably want but ill give it anyway. Also i could never consider this a baiting question because theres no bait content IMO

    Not obsessed but if you read my OP you will see why it brings me joy
    - my disgust of bigotry and discrimination
    - my total lack of understanding how people could so selfishly and ignorantly deny people equal rights IN THIS COUNTRY
    - and that i thought in my life time i would always live with that going on in my country.

    Theres many things in america not right and we could all talk about them but this is one actually being fixed and it makes me happy. Personally im just shocked at times that this is where we are on social issues, IMO we should lead the way for the world, we should be the example, not playing catch up.

    ANd yes you are correct, im not gay lol nor do i have any immediate or close blood family members that are gay/want to have equal rights.

    However i am greatly disgusted by discrimination and the denying of equal rights.

    and over the decades of my life i have come to meet a great deal of gay people, at one time my closest friend was a lesbian so by default my interactions with them increased. While i didnt need this experience to tell me they are just like everybody else it certainly confirmed.

    I met gays who were kind hearted and very polite, who were complete assholes, gays who were racists, who were very religious, who were inspiring, who were funny, who were IMO sluts and players, who were very wholesome etc etc etc

    Nothing different than every other man, women, teen, adult, religious, non religious, minority, majority person iv ever met in my life time.

    Imo its a huge crime that is conducted against them and i find it pathetic in 2013 its even a issue. I personally could NEVER deny equal rights in this country and practice this type of discrimination. I could never be that ignorant, selfish, hypocritical and arrogant.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Another Gay Thumper thread

    #smh
    another post by you exposing your bigoted views of hatred
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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You seem obsessed with this issue, as far as I know you are not gay so do you have some gay family member that wants to get married or something? Honest question, I'm not baiting you.
    Two friends of my wife suffered greatly to gay bigotry, so there is a bit of personal connection here. But beyond that, it's still a basic equality question. You either believe in basic equality, or you don't. I don't see much room for anything in between.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    another post by you exposing your bigoted views of hatred
    Projection noted

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Two friends of my wife suffered greatly to gay bigotry, so there is a bit of personal connection here. But beyond that, it's still a basic equality question. You either believe in basic equality, or you don't. I don't see much room for anything in between.
    Just not a burning issue with me I guess. My wife and I have two lesbian friends that don't seem to care much either.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Just not a burning issue with me I guess. My wife and I have two lesbian friends that don't seem to care much either.
    Or not show it. But either way, it's still a simple question of basic equality.

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    Re: Labor Dept.: Same-Sex Spouses Have Benefit Rights

    Well I am gay and I am very happy for these rulings. They will make life a little easier and a lot fairer for a lot of couples.

    For the record, my partner and I are not married. But if we had married in 2010, as we might have, the IRS ruling would have entitled us to over $25k in tax refunds. That is no small chunk of change. Not all gay couples will see huge financial benefits because of these decisions, of course. But the satisfaction of having a federal government that no longer treats you as undeserving of things like estate tax exemptions and family medical leave and immigration spousal sponsorship is valueless.
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