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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who do you think will end up paying for this?
    the insurance company's have to pay for the insurance.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    not if want to suffer the risks of breaking the law.
    phunny thing about you folks that have never run a business
    we aren't doing it to lose money or comply with some lawl
    if it's unprofitable it ain't gonna happen

    but rest assured the insurance companies will make a total killing before they turn out the lights

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So you think the public is going to look at this like: We don't like this ineffective Congress because they are ineffective. Ineffective Congress could use a shutdown to make them even more ineffective. I would also like the American economy to loose billions of dollars in revenue.

    Yeah, makes a lot of sense.
    The majority of Americans do not like Obama Care and would look kindly on delaying its implementation. There was never a discussion on Obama Care since the Dem leaders did not allow the members of Congress to see the whole bill until the time to vote its passage.

    And I think that it is an effective Congress that does put a wrench in the spokes of the wheel of government to prevent it from grinding on the American People. And sometimes the government has to be "shut down" so that a diffrent direction can be made than from a course of destruction.
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the insurance company's have to pay for the insurance.
    OK where's the ignore button?

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    the insurance company's have to pay for the insurance.
    No, the insurance companies charge premiums to provide insurance, so once again, who will pay for this nicety?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/us...ocDrMbeP5FlRag

    House Bill Cuts Health Funds, Raising Odds of U.S. Shutdown

    By JONATHAN WEISMAN and ASHLEY PARKER
    Published: September 18, 2013

    WASHINGTON — House Republican leaders — bowing to the demands of their conservative wing — will put to a vote on Friday a stopgap spending measure that would strip all funding from President Obama’s signature health care law, increasing the likelihood that the government will shut down in two weeks.


    So what's going on here? Another defeat Obamacare vote? And will this shut down the government like in the 90's? If so, will it come back to bite the Republicans in the a**?

    Why the urgency to defeat this "train wreck"? If that's what this is, why not let it fail and bring down its Democratic authors? Republicans have shown they can play politics with the welfare of the American people by threatening the full faith and credit of the country, so why not let the law destroy itself, then sweep in and take the credit for predicting it?

    My question is, do Republicans fear that ACA will not be the disaster they predict, or even worse, a success, and are trying to sabotage it before they look bad for opposing it? Or is this just a stunt to appease their radical right wing? "Obamacare delenda est"?
    Its a wedge issue. Same as anything the democrats do. Too bad only some of recognize that BOTH parties are the problem, not one or the other.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    Anarchy?

    I'm curious: who remembers the last government shutdown? I was too busy playing with LEGO to care. Was it awful, or was it no big deal? And with the economy today, would it be worse now?
    Twas' much ado about nothing. The National Parks were closed and departments did not process new applicants for government services outside of that not much.
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    people with Pr-existing conditions were being denied coverage, Under the affordable care act insurance company's can no longer deny someone with a pre-existing condition.
    I completely agree that insurance companies should not be able to refuse to pay for treatment ever, preexisting conditions or not. This certainly could have been handled in another way though.

    An important fact to remember is that a lot of employers are going to dump their insurance for their employees because it will probably be cheaper for a lot of them to take the tax penalty instead of pay for insurance for all of their employees. Also, a lot of people will probably do the same, if they are young and healthy.

    For example, here in MA we have had these types of laws in effect for a long time. I figured out that I pay approximately 1500 a year for my health insurance coverage. If I dumped my health insurance covered and had to pay the tax penalty, it would be approximately a $600 penalty (I know this because I mistakenly did not renew my insurance one year and had to pay).

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Hey, guess what? It's Friday night, with Saturday and Sunday coming up. The government has shut down! Oh, no! What are we going to do?
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    had to pay
    trust me young lady if this thing isn't stopped we will all have to pay through the nose!

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