Last edited by reinoe; 09-21-13 at 11:45 PM.
Hell the progressives major voting block - the labor unions are calling bull****....
The only difference is that the progressives/democrats opposed to this socialist nonsense want "waivers" while the rest of us non-socialists and non-democrats want it repealed entirely...
Democrats and progressives are fine with it just as long as they don't have to abide by it...
I can only draw one conclusion. That will put private insurance companies out of business. Now before you attempt to offer a counter argument please
realize that I believe the administration when they stated that they realize that Americans would never accept single payer in one go but phased in over a ten to fifteen year period it would be doable and I agree that is fully possible. The only thing I can't fathom is that the folks on your side actually believe it will save money. SSI Medicare/Medicaid are doomed to insolvency no amount of restriction in services or untenable tax increases can change that...
Basically adding the majority of all American citizens medical care to the Federal budget seems like complete lunacy?
If you look at any piechart for the current Federal budget the only real big expenditures are entitlements and defence
lord knows we can do without the outrageous outlays for the military and still be quite safe but with all the baby boomers soon to put their hands out for their slices of the entitlement pie I can't imagine that any reasonable person would believe the tax burden or the additional amount of public debt is sustainable. For the eight years I had CEO legally attached to my name there were only three things I wanted to know on a daily basis:
how much do we have
how much do we owe
how much is coming in
then you'd know if you were in the red or the black
(a daily cashflow calculation)
we are headed as a nation in only one direction, like a runaway freight train and the guys driving the locomotive are pouring on the coal!
Last edited by AngryOldGuy; 09-22-13 at 02:11 AM.
- Creates the Health Insurance Marketplace, a new way for individuals, families, and small businesses to get health coverage
Where's this place at? What's the secret handshake to get in this place? What page in the yellow pages is it shown on?
- Requires insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing health conditions
And people can enroll when? Oh that's right, there will be windows from Oct to Dec. So that's when you better get sick or no insurance for you. Why it's almost exactly like the wait times requited now for people with pre-existing conditions.
- Holds insurance companies accountable for rate increases
How? They already have demonstrated what they will do if required to lose money. They don't offer insurance.
- Requires insurance companies to devote 80-85% of premiums to benefit payments or rebate the difference to its customers
That a way government. Force companies out of business because they can't cover a bad year. Decreasing completion has what effect on cost? Hint, hint, your wallet gets lighter.
- Makes it illegal for health insurance companies to arbitrarily cancel your health insurance just because you get sick
And if they do, what? Oh, you'll have to get a lawyer just like now.
- Covers young adults under 26
Good thing too. Because of this law, many (an ever increasing many) of them won't be able to land a job, much less one that provides insurance. To bad for them when they turn 26, they still won't be able to land a good job because of this law.
- Provides free preventive care
Are there people out there that still believe something is free? The dumb remain dumb if so. Costs go up for everybody.
- Ends lifetime and yearly dollar limits on coverage of essential health benefits
And this effects everybody else's insurance cost how? Uh, I know the answer, do you?
- Guarantees your right to appeal should coverage be denied
What's changed here? Not much if anything. You get to go whine to a nameless government employee and hire your own lawyer.
- Through cost control and greater participation by the general public in preventative medicine, should reduce the deficit over the first 10 years by $114B and the next 10 years by $1T.
You put this in for laughs right? Should. LOL. LOL. LOL.......
"“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama
Trustees: Medicare Will Go Broke in 2016, If You Exclude Obamacare's Double-Counting - Forbes
Medicare has 43 trillion in unfunded liability if you tax every one making over 60,000 and all cooperation's 100% you only would get 7 trillion
Cox and Archer: Why $16 Trillion Only Hints at the True U.S. Debt - WSJ.com
you call that working just fine? I guess you can call it that if your goal is to bankrupt America
Last edited by trfjr; 09-22-13 at 06:49 AM.
we will no longer accept any new medicare patients. When my son was about to graduate prep school (highschool) during a visit
the doc asked him what he was going to study in college, he then went on to say whatever you don't go into medicine!
He said that over the years he was making less and less money (he was already working as many hours as he could)
his cost of operation keep going up, insurance paid less and less (we always paid cash) and his malpractice insurance
was eating him alive, 5 years ago he closed his practice and went to work for an HMO It's driving him nuts because
the insurance company now completely dictates how he practices medicine.
Gawd help us all once the government dictates your medical care
oh medicare? between what it cost him to get any money out of them (to pay office staff to file a claim and then wait forever)
and the pittance they were willing to pay, medicare was a loser, it wasn't worth having those patients.
Try and imagine how low the level of care will go, ever talk to someone in Canada that has to wait 3 to 4 months
for a procedure but if they want to pay it will only take a one month wait or if they go to Seattle they can have
that knee with the torn meniscus from the car bicycle accident four months ago (that's how long it took to get an MRI)
fixed this week? My sister in law waited four days to get scheduled for coronary heart bypass surgery in 05 in Newport Beach CA
Imagine being told you are on a wait list that depending on how urgent they think it is can range from 2 to 12 weeks
New Hope for the Wretched era