Yes boys and girls tax free medical savings accounts that can be passed on to your heirs
tort reform and
de-regulation of insurance companies so that you could cover your whole family with a high deductible catastrophic plan
free market capitalism in the medical industry, if the product is priced way beyond what the market can bear then the price will fall
if you pay cash for what you buy then you'll only purchase what you can afford Why should a skid row bum be given a new Porsche 911 GT3?
Now we will all beg in front of the death panel and they will decide if we get the surgery or Obama's lil yellow pill.
Well buddy that's downright un-American but then all you Liberals are commies anyway
New Hope for the Wretched era
Second, you point out a serious and fundamental flaw in our current health care delivery model: the patient has no real idea what the cost is going to be, and no real choice in the matter. It's not like if they told you up front that the cost was $500 you'd have said "oh no thanks I'll just sit here and bleed some more." No, Obamacare doesn't address this underlying flaw. But let's not act like it caused it either. This did happen to you in the 90s, after all.
Finally, I should mention that yes, actually, not having health insurance does make you more likely to die from a preventable illness. People without insurance tend to wait until the situation becomes serious before they go to the doctor, rather than getting early checkups. (hell, people with insurance do this more often than they should) Waiting until a later stage of illness makes that illness more likely to kill you. (duh)
One of you will end up here next!
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(sorry to break the bad news to you)
If you think you have to pay mountains of cash in insurance premuims over the course of your lifetime to guarantee immortality then that's perfectly within your right to live your life that way but you've no right to enforce at the point
of a gun such stupid belief system on your fellow countrymen? No wait I take that back now with the ACA
that is precisely what we have? How I fund my hip replacement or cold medicine is no concern of yours.
When my mom had terminal cancer someone talked her into getting a second opinion hah guess what
she died and so will everyone else.
New Hope for the Wretched era
I'd love to see Americans get told: no you can't have it you don't have the money!
Everyone gets a tax free medical account, they can elect to pay for a very REASONABLE
high deductible catastrophic policy from this account. This account can be used to fund medical procedures for dependants. And it can be willed tax free to your heirs.
If you want something in the healthcare marketplace then you pay for it.
If you can't afford it then you don't get it.
The free market could provide much better products and services than the crappy socialised medicine we are going to end up with.
Pure and simple the people with money will still be able to get the good stuff the poor folks will still get more than they pay for and the middle class will get ruined in the process.
Americans aren't stoopid
millions will pay the fine then if they need something force an insurance company to cover their pre-existing conditions.
The guys running the insurance companies aren't fools either, they will quickly shift their substantial assets elsewhere
and quietly go out of business leaving everyone standing in line at the exchanges with the felons, welfare moms and the illegals.
Have fun with that.
oh and did you know the IRS can't even collect the fine?
aw go on and tell me that's not in the ACA either
- Creates the Health Insurance Marketplace, a new way for individuals, families, and small businesses to get health coverage
- Requires insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing health conditions
- Holds insurance companies accountable for rate increases
- Requires insurance companies to devote 80-85% of premiums to benefit payments or rebate the difference to its customers
- Makes it illegal for health insurance companies to arbitrarily cancel your health insurance just because you get sick
- Covers young adults under 26
- Provides free preventive care
- Ends lifetime and yearly dollar limits on coverage of essential health benefits
- Guarantees your right to appeal should coverage be denied
- Through cost control and greater participation by the general public in preventative medicine, should reduce the deficit over the first 10 years by $114B and the next 10 years by $1T.
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