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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I sincerely hope that the losers on the far right in the GOP go ahead and shut the government down.

    I am totally fed up with those losers and I hope that they go ahead and shoot themselves in the foot.

    I guarantee you that they and the entire GOP will pay a heavy price for that stupidity.

    The USA will survive, but I don't believe that the GOP will still be around very long.




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    Sorry I don't share your sentiments. This week the GOP House stopped playing defense and started playing offense. Not just with defunding Obamacare but the immigration bill is going nowhere in the House. It's been a wonderful week.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Why would I care about that?
    Oh, I don't know....integrity?
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so if it has no moral obligation, why does the government have to provide law enforcement or punish crime. after all it is apparently not their obligation to enforce what is right or wrong.
    Its the law.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i can think of 2 particular clause's that cover health insurance

    the commerce clause, and the necessary and proper clause.
    Neither of those mention healthcare. One states that govt can regulate trade, the other that congress can make laws regarding the constitutional powers of govt. Its quite a stretch to say that that means the govt can force you to buy health insurance, create massive programs to pay for healthcare, etc. If all you needed was those two powers, there would be no need for them to have written in any powers.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Neither of those mention healthcare. One states that govt can regulate trade, the other that congress can make laws regarding the constitutional powers of govt. Its quite a stretch to say that that means the govt can force you to buy health insurance, create massive programs to pay for healthcare, etc. If all you needed was those two powers, there would be no need for them to have written in any powers.

    Our government requires that a hospital provide healthcare for people without the ability for them to pay for it. I spent some time chatting with a Tea Party demonstrator that owes a hospital and others 10's of thousands for health care and couldn't afford insurance. I can give you more details, but this Viet Vet should have died in the parking lot according to you.
    This is the highest cost way to provide health care. Some preventive care would have been much lower cost. BTW you are paying for his high cost health care since the hospital etc. has to cover its costs by charging you more.
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Oh, I don't know....integrity?
    That doesn't even make sense.
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    That doesn't even make sense.
    I'm sure it doesn't...to you.
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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Our government requires that a hospital provide healthcare for people without the ability for them to pay for it. I spent some time chatting with a Tea Party demonstrator that owes a hospital and others 10's of thousands for health care and couldn't afford insurance. I can give you more details, but this Viet Vet should have died in the parking lot according to you.
    This is the highest cost way to provide health care. Some preventive care would have been much lower cost. BTW you are paying for his high cost health care since the hospital etc. has to cover its costs by charging you more.
    Let's face it, the biggest problem is the cost of healthcare to begin with. Tort reform.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Our government requires that a hospital provide healthcare for people without the ability for them to pay for it. I spent some time chatting with a Tea Party demonstrator that owes a hospital and others 10's of thousands for health care and couldn't afford insurance. I can give you more details, but this Viet Vet should have died in the parking lot according to you.
    This is the highest cost way to provide health care. Some preventive care would have been much lower cost. BTW you are paying for his high cost health care since the hospital etc. has to cover its costs by charging you more.
    Your sob story has nothing to do with what is legal. Your govt does not have the power to require that a hospital (and therefore ME) provide healthcare.

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    Re: House Bill Defunds Health Care

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    You sorta sound like these two



    Sorry I don't share your sentiments. This week the GOP House stopped playing defense and started playing offense. Not just with defunding Obamacare but the immigration bill is going nowhere in the House. It's been a wonderful week.

    Why I feel like breaking out in song........

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    To those two, I say drop dead. That dried-up bitch hasn't got a clue.
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