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    U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    I just don't know what to say about this except WTF????

    " Rhode Island police warned the U.S. Navy last month that Washington Navy Yard gunman Aaron Alexis had reported "hearing voices," raising further questions about how he gained security clearance at the complex where he went on a shooting rampage."

    U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices' | Reuters

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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I just don't know what to say about this except WTF????

    " Rhode Island police warned the U.S. Navy last month that Washington Navy Yard gunman Aaron Alexis had reported "hearing voices," raising further questions about how he gained security clearance at the complex where he went on a shooting rampage."

    U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices' | Reuters
    Makes you wonder what "medication" he was prescribed to deal with it. I think a review of the prescription history of all the shooters should be studied. There seems to be some anomalies as relates to "psychotropic" drugs. I'm medically ignorant, but have read some about this. I've known many Vets on many drugs and sometimes the drugs make them goofy. Many of these shooters seem to be under psychiatric care and still teeing off. Seems like the system might be a bit askew, don't you think?

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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I just don't know what to say about this except WTF????

    " Rhode Island police warned the U.S. Navy last month that Washington Navy Yard gunman Aaron Alexis had reported "hearing voices," raising further questions about how he gained security clearance at the complex where he went on a shooting rampage."

    U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices' | Reuters
    This probably happened for the same reason this happened (from the article):

    A Defense Department Inspector General's report published on Tuesday revealed security lapses that allowed 52 convicted felons to gain access to Navy facilities because budget cuts had undermined vetting.
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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    This probably happened for the same reason this happened (from the article):
    And then there is this, I still have no comment except WTF???????????



    "Meanwhile, the U.S. capital paused to remember the victims, aged 46 to 73, who included retirees, parents and a bird lover.

    Police in Newport, Rhode Island, were so concerned about Alexis' behavior on a business trip there in August that they alerted Navy police.

    Alexis told police he believed people were following him and "sending vibrations into his body," according to a Newport police report.

    He told police that he had twice moved hotels to avoid the noise he heard coming through the floor and the ceiling of his rooms, and that the people following him were using "some sort of microwave machine" to prevent him from sleeping.

    "Based on the naval base implications and the claim that the involved subject, one (Aaron Alexis) was 'hearing voices,' I made contact with the on-duty Naval Station police," a Newport police officer wrote, adding that he faxed his report of the incident to Navy police.

    The Newport police report said Navy police had promised to check if Alexis was in fact a naval base contractor.

    Asked for comment, a spokesman said the Navy was looking into the matter, without confirming any details.

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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Yeah.

    Like I said.

    Cue vilification of the mentally ill -- never mind that out understanding of mental illness is as subpar as our mental health system.
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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I just don't know what to say about this except WTF????

    " Rhode Island police warned the U.S. Navy last month that Washington Navy Yard gunman Aaron Alexis had reported "hearing voices," raising further questions about how he gained security clearance at the complex where he went on a shooting rampage."

    U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices' | Reuters
    If a copper thinks a situation is serious enough to report it to Naval security, the person involved should be put on administrative leave until an investigation re-vets him. Cops don't do this lightly, in my opinion. If he's willing to put it in writing? He means it.
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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Yeah.

    Like I said.

    Cue vilification of the mentally ill -- never mind that out understanding of mental illness is as subpar as our mental health system.
    It seems this tragedy could and should have been averted. There should be an investigation of who exactly received this info from the police and what they did with it. Unfortunately this will be another Benghazi, nobody will be held responsible.

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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If a copper thinks a situation is serious enough to report it to Naval security, the person involved should be put on administrative leave until an investigation re-vets him. Cops don't do this lightly, in my opinion. If he's willing to put it in writing? He means it.
    It's the words of a layman being interpreted by another layman. Maybe the recipient of the notification was an idiot, or maybe he was over-worked, or maybe this was a failure in the chain of command, or maybe he tracked down and contacted whomever was treating this man who in turn said the man represented no threat.

    We will probably never know what really happened. All I'm certain of is that this will be yet another opportunity for the media to sensationalize mental illness.
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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It's the words of a layman being interpreted by another layman. Maybe the recipient of the notification was an idiot, or maybe he was over-worked, or maybe this was a failure in the chain of command, or maybe he tracked down and contacted whomever was treating this man who in turn said the man represented no threat.

    We will probably never know what really happened. All I'm certain of is that this will be yet another opportunity for the media to sensationalize mental illness.
    Well, I don't think it's sensationalizing mental illness. I think it's shining a very bright light on security clearances and the way people are vetted. If we refuse to learn a damned thing from these instances, they will happen over and over again. You find a loophole? A shortcoming? You fix it. Sure works in MY life.
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    Re: U.S. Navy was warned that Washington shooter 'heard voices'

    The thing is, even if he didn't have access don't you think he'd just go somewhere else and do it? I am not saying this is excusable, I just think if it wasn't there it could have been somewhere else.
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