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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And what of those states that did not, and in fact voted in favor of gay marriage? What of those that have yet to decide, or could overturn their state amendments? The use of the federal government is a means to prevent that from happening, yes?
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You are simply wrong One state I believe it was Iowa even recalled the Judges that made that decision
    Which is why I said except Iowa. The other three, Massachusetts, California, and Connecticut have had multiple polls showing significant support for Same-sex marriage since it has become legal. It is also shown by less liberal states in similar regions and with similar demographics in Washington, Maine, and Maryland voting for same sex marriage.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    So what happens when the "will of the people" contradicts the constitution?
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So what happens when the "will of the people" contradicts the constitution?
    Happens quite often.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    So Navy, about that state's rights stuff? Do you still buy into it?
    always have, always will. Keep the Fed Gov out of states business.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am not denying anyones rights...I just say the definition of marriage should not be changed by a small amount of gays and a "feel Good" bunch of libs.
    Well we know that's not true. You don't want any person to get federal benefits as a result of gay marriage, you don't want marriage rights to transfer across state borders, you don't want gay marriage by way of judiciary, legislature, or popular referendum. If a majority of the populace in a state voted in favor of gay marriage, or even tacitly bought into it via another mechanism, you would turn to the federal government to overturn it.

    Hell, Navy, the only thing that we can't get you to admit to is that even if a majority of the country and the states agreed to gay marriage, you'd still support the minority trying to remove it.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Which is why I said except Iowa. The other three, Massachusetts, California, and Connecticut have had multiple polls showing significant support for Same-sex marriage since it has become legal. It is also shown by less liberal states in similar regions and with similar demographics in Washington, Maine, and Maryland voting for same sex marriage.
    What are you smoking? the people of Cal voted against gay marriage several times and have never voted for it.....A gay judge on the 9th circuit who wanted to marry his male lover overturned he will of the people.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    always have, always will. Keep the Fed Gov out of states business.
    You spoke for years about the need to have the feds step in. A constitutional amendment is having the government tell the states their business. You have little qualms with that. You said so yourself years ago.

    Face it Navy. If we are going by that small government definition of conservative, you'd be a flaming liberal. Even your promotion of mass democracy against the elites would grant you that label.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Well we know that's not true. You don't want any person to get federal benefits as a result of gay marriage, you don't want marriage rights to transfer across state borders, you don't want gay marriage by way of judiciary, legislature, or popular referendum. If a majority of the populace in a state voted in favor of gay marriage, or even tacitly bought into it via another mechanism, you would turn to the federal government to overturn it.

    Hell, Navy, the only thing that we can't get you to admit to is that even if a majority of the country and the states agreed to gay marriage, you'd still support the minority trying to remove it.
    Now I want you to concentrate like a laser beam as I have said I don't care what gays call their marriage I just don't want the definition of marriage changed.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What are you smoking? the people of Cal voted against gay marriage several times and have never voted for it.....A gay judge on the 9th circuit who wanted to marry his male lover overturned he will of the people.
    Yeah, 5 years ago. Since then, their opinions have changed. Multiple polls show California approving gay marriage. Less liberal Washington voted to support it. It's fairly safe to say Prop 8 would lose today.
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