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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    That argument falls apart when you consider precedent is being set that declares those bans unconstitutional. But you spiteful hatred of gays is noticed and how you wish to hurt those who serve our country has also been noted. But hey, maybe we should support taking your benefits away until every member of the military gets the same ones, and that includes gays.
    No state with a ban have had it overturned.......Only the SCOTUS can do that and they won't touch it.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Ah, so here's a problem. You advocated for a Constitutional amendment which would deny that right of the states to decide in favor of gay marriage as well. You would prevent "the will of the people" at the state level at the very least.


    THe states already decided by voting for and amendment........Even you know that.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    THe states already decided by voting for and amendment........Even you know that.
    And what of those states that did not, and in fact voted in favor of gay marriage? What of those that have yet to decide, or could overturn their state amendments? The use of the federal government is a means to prevent that from happening, yes?
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No red states and in most of the blue states where its legal it was done by activist judges and not the will of the people.
    That's not even true any more. The majority of states who have it either voted on it or had it enacted by their legislature. And at the very least all the states except Iowa who had it implemented by judges favor it now anyway.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No state with a ban have had it overturned.......Only the SCOTUS can do that and they won't touch it.
    Actually, california had a ban and it's state judicial overturned it. The supreme court wouldn't touch it because no one had standing to fight for the ban since the state would not fight for it. If you have a state that is willing to fight for it SCOTUS will touch it. In the end since precedent is set and the language was set in place to call it unconstitutional we already know that decision is coming when it does get there.

    You can cheer for the small victories of spiteful denial of equal rights to gays, but slowly the courts will iron out any loopholes and each one of those victories will turn into defeat for you. So cheer now because we all know later we will be laughing as people like you get personally offended as the courts keep stepping on your ability to discriminate.

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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Actually, california had a ban and it's state judicial overturned it. The supreme court wouldn't touch it because no one had standing to fight for the ban since the state would not fight for it. If you have a state that is willing to fight for it SCOTUS will touch it. In the end since precedent is set and the language was set in place to call it unconstitutional we already know that decision is coming when it does get there.

    You can cheer for the small victories of spiteful denial of equal rights to gays, but slowly the courts will iron out any loopholes and each one of those victories will turn into defeat for you. So cheer now because we all know later we will be laughing as people like you get personally offended as the courts keep stepping on your ability to discriminate.
    Californians got screwed but they had no amendment...............I am not denying anyones rights...I just say the definition of marriage should not be changed by a small amount of gays and a "feel Good" bunch of libs.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Californians got screwed but the had no amendment...............I am not denying anyones rights...I just say the definition of marriage should not be changed by a small amount of gays and a "feel Good" bunch of libs.
    You are denying the right to marriage and benefits from said marriage every step of the way. Frankly, I find it amusing you talk about "libs" so much when there is hardly anything more liberal than a guy promoting "the will of the people."
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    That's not even true any more. The majority of states who have it either voted on it or had it enacted by their legislature. And at the very least all the states except Iowa who had it implemented by judges favor it now anyway.
    You are simply wrong One state I believe it was Iowa even recalled the Judges that made that decision
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You are denying the right to marriage and benefits from said marriage every step of the way. Frankly, I find it amusing you talk about "libs" so much when there is hardly anything more liberal than a guy promoting "the will of the people."
    I am not denying anyones rights...I just say the definition of marriage should not be changed by a small amount of gays and a "feel Good" bunch of libs.
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    Re: Mary Fallin blocks same-sex benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You are simply wrong One state I believe it was Iowa even recalled the Judges that made that decision
    So Navy, about that state's rights stuff? Do you still buy into it?
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