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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    An interesting conspiracy theory I was thinking is what if Obama and Putin have made an agreement to "escalate" things so that their respective military complexes could be increased. We can't have increased military spending without a threat, so both sides are playing their roles.

    Like I said, a conspiracy theory nonetheless, but an interesting one in my mind to me at least

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    An interesting conspiracy theory I was thinking is what if Obama and Putin have made an agreement to "escalate" things so that their respective military complexes could be increased. We can't have increased military spending without a threat, so both sides are playing their roles.

    Like I said, a conspiracy theory nonetheless, but an interesting one in my mind to me at least
    Wasn't Prescott Walker Bush involved in supplying oil to Hitler's army in some back door fashion. Sure war makes money, US and global economy is faltering, big time. Many have argued it was WW11 that lifted us out of depression, not the New Deal. The MIC was born and the subsequent rise of the middle class.

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wasn't Prescott Walker Bush involved in supplying oil to Hitler's army in some back door fashion. Sure war makes money, US and global economy is faltering, big time. Many have argued it was WW11 that lifted us out of depression, not the New Deal. The MIC was born and the subsequent rise of the middle class.
    I honestly don't know, I haven't read anything about Prescott. The reason I was thinking this is it is the perfect "conflict" to increase military spending. Russia and the U.S. were (for the most part) very stable adversaries in the Cold War in that one side or the other didn't want war but we still increased spending money in not only arms, but weapons and training. Again, it's all a conspiracy theory, just got me thinking is all.

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

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    (Reuters) - Russia is reopening a Soviet-era military base in the Arctic, President Vladimir Putin said on Monday, part of a drive to make the northern coast a global shipping route and secure the region's vast energy resources.

    Two decades after abandoning it, Russia has sent 10 warships behind four nuclear-powered ice breakers to the base on the Novosibirsk Islands, a show of force as it resumes a permanent naval presence in the thawing region.

    The flotilla was led by Russia's flagship nuclear-powered cruiser, Peter the Great, along the Northern Sea Route, which connects Europe to Asia across Russian waters from the Kara Gate to the Bering Strait.

    Putin: Russia to reopen Soviet-era Arctic military base | Reuters
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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    (Reuters) - Russia is reopening a Soviet-era military base in the Arctic, President Vladimir Putin said on Monday, part of a drive to make the northern coast a global shipping route and secure the region's vast energy resources.

    Two decades after abandoning it, Russia has sent 10 warships behind four nuclear-powered ice breakers to the base on the Novosibirsk Islands, a show of force as it resumes a permanent naval presence in the thawing region.

    The flotilla was led by Russia's flagship nuclear-powered cruiser, Peter the Great, along the Northern Sea Route, which connects Europe to Asia across Russian waters from the Kara Gate to the Bering Strait.

    Putin: Russia to reopen Soviet-era Arctic military base | Reuters
    In the context of a warming climate that is leading to more and more access to potential resources and emerging shipping lanes, this move makes geopolitical sense. Russia has the largest territory adjacent to the Arctic Ocean. Russia and the other nations bordering the Arctic region have significant interests there.

    International legal instruments dealing with the Arctic are lacking, especially as they relate to security and territory. The Arctic Council's declarations, which fall short of binding treaties, offer some guidance on a limited range of issues.

    Document Archive - Declarations

    The Arctic Council is comprised of the states bordering the Arctic region, along with Greenland, and a number of observer states.

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Putin getting old school up in this place! Re-build your fallout shelters and start building a wall because this **** is about to get cold war....
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I honestly don't know, I haven't read anything about Prescott. The reason I was thinking this is it is the perfect "conflict" to increase military spending. Russia and the U.S. were (for the most part) very stable adversaries in the Cold War in that one side or the other didn't want war but we still increased spending money in not only arms, but weapons and training. Again, it's all a conspiracy theory, just got me thinking is all.

    George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
    The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.


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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Putin getting old school up in this place! Re-build your fallout shelters and start building a wall because this **** is about to get cold war....

    Or hot??

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    Re: Putin: Russia to re open Soviet-era Article military base

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wasn't Prescott Walker Bush involved in supplying oil to Hitler's army in some back door fashion. Sure war makes money, US and global economy is faltering, big time. Many have argued it was WW11 that lifted us out of depression, not the New Deal. The MIC was born and the subsequent rise of the middle class.
    That's true. Truman wanted to try Prescott for treason. On this Russian base in the Arctic and the reason for it is that Global Warming is melting the Arctic ice. Many shipping groups are eyeballing and using these routes to save thousands of miles. Ice is still the hazard, ergo, icebreakers can turn a nifty profit assisting vessels in getting through. Port services are another asset. I suspect Russia will turn a profit from re-opening the base, although I do recall it being a big submarine base. Putin demonstrated, when he snatched the Russian Petro from the claws of Exxon/Mobil and JPMorganChase and made Russia the largest oil exporter in the world and putting the Russian budget in surplus, that he understood capitalism and corporatism. That is what really causes most of the bad press in the USA because he outsmarted and outmaneuvered top USA corporations. Screwed up their plans to have a Euro energy monopoly. I expect Canada to develop an Artic port and have an argument with the USA over territorial rights. Bah, humbug, ain't that Global Warming just a leftie myth? When big money invests in Artic development, it ain't a myth.

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