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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You guys are missing the point....Obama specifically predicted what he was going to do concerning energy, he projected that energy prices would "necessarily skyrocket".... Through tax
    Federal tax on gas has not changed under either of the last two presidents:

    The federal gas tax has remained steady at 18.4 cents per gallon for the last 16 years.
    Federal Gas Tax Passes Another Milestone: What Is The Future? - Forbes

    and increased regulations that is exactly what is happening
    But it's not happening. You want people to believe a lie. Gas prices have been between $3 and $4 for years now under Obama, just like they were for a couple of years at the end of Bush's run as President. The financial crash of 2008, predictably, saw gas prices fall significantly, but once the stock market recovered, so did gas prices. The price of gas per gallon has been relatively unchanged for roughly a year now.

    and instead of honest looking at this, the usual suspects are doing the usual thing, blaming Bush
    I'm not blaming Bush, just noting the fact the price of gas rose $3 during his presidency and comparing that to the relatively stable price gas has been under Obama.

    using Bush as a comparison (even though Obama has seen the longest high price records ever)
    No, YOU use Bush as a comparison. Your entire thread is a comparison of Obama to former presidents. Be honest already.

    I am spending $60 per week on gas for two vehicles to get my wife and I to work, and back. That's in a 4 week month $240.00.
    Then get a job that's closer. Ride your bike more. It's not Obama's fault you have the job you have nor is it Obama's fault you don't ride your bike.

    That works out to the kind of expendable cash that I can't spend in the economy on entertainment, goods, services, vacations, etc. Not to mention groceries (something I know a little about because I deliver some of what y'all buy at the grocery store) have risen as much as 30% to 40% from last year alone. This is due in no small measure to transportation costs.
    Actually, food costs went up significantly last year because of massive droughts across the country. This is well-known and documented. Please try a little harder if you're going to insist on spreading mistruths.

    You greenies, where is the propane powered vehicles? Where are the cheaper alternatives? Obama sure did make it a point to give a lot of my tax money to these companies that were supposed to be developing these things, and now nothing?
    If by "nothing" you mean:

    Here's the real news: The price of solar decreased by 50 percent during 2011! 50 percent! That's a game-changing number that has resulted in a jump in installations throughout the U.S. and Europe, according to a recent Bloomberg report. Indeed, here in the U.S., new spending on solar energy jumped more than 30 percent to $55.9 billion in 2011, surpassing the 1 percent gain in China to $47.4 billion. These are astounding numbers and show real movement and vindication for President Obama's solar policies. Bring costs down -- and people will buy it.
    Brian Keane: Obama's Solar Story Shows Success, Not Failure

    ...then sure. Whatever.


    Except my tax money is gone
    Uhh, it was already gone. You're not very good with honesty when it comes to money, are you? Or is it just Obama you have a hard time being honest about?

    and more and more we are served up another story on how the millions, or billions given to a company like this that went belly up, was actually owned by another Obama crony....
    All the while ignoring the fact that most of them are still in business and some are doing well. I know that goes against the dishonest narrative you like to push, but it matters to people who care about the truth.

    Bush is gone damn it, this is OBAMA! And I am damned tired of being played by him and his disingenuous political bull!
    So...you DON'T want to talk rationally about this then?

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    There are 49 counties with higher gas prices than the US. Norway at $10.08 is the highest, Germany at $8.01 is 12th. Korea at $6.44 is 30th.

    Want a better deal on gas? Venezuela at 4¢, Egypt for $1.00.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    This is a 5 year average gas price chart, available here:

    Historical Gas Price Charts - GasBuddy.com

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    Yes, now do the 10 year chart (or see it below where I posted it) and include the gas prices under Bush. You'll find that until the financial market crash of 2008, gas prices were roughly the same as they are now. Like I said.

    Why is it so hard for you people to be honest?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    THANK YOU!!!! Well that certainly puts to rest all of the "gas price has been level", "Inflation dollars", "Obama didn't do it".....CRAP!
    No, it doesn't. Look at the 10 year chart.

    Attachment 67153748

    Like I said, gas prices now are roughly where they were before the economic collapse of 2008. As the stock market as recovered, so have gas prices gone up. It amazes me the ridiculous lengths people will go to serve their agenda.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    One way to lower the price of gasoline would be to require anyone who buys oil to be required to take delivery of all oil purchases before selling.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    THANK YOU!!!! Well that certainly puts to rest all of the "gas price has been level", "Inflation dollars", "Obama didn't do it".....CRAP!
    I live in California. I wish we were paying the national average.

    Here is a snip of the bottom of the national average price per gallon by metro area, available here:

    Average Prices By Metro Area - Los Angeles Gas Prices

    Note where the highest gasoline prices by metro area in the nation are.

    average gas prices.jpg

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, now do the 10 year chart (or see it below where I posted it) and include the gas prices under Bush. You'll find that until the financial market crash of 2008, gas prices were roughly the same as they are now. Like I said.

    Why is it so hard for you people to be honest?

    No, it doesn't. Look at the 10 year chart.

    Attachment 67153748

    Like I said, gas prices now are roughly where they were before the economic collapse of 2008. As the stock market as recovered, so have gas prices gone up. It amazes me the ridiculous lengths people will go to serve their agenda.

    I'm sorry sly, but I don't play this game. It's really rather juvenile to use statement like "why can't you be honest".

    Here is the chart for 10 years. Note the trend. You're mistaken in your claims.

    gas 10 year average.jpg

    I'll run along. As I wrote, I don't do the scramble game.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gasoline tax hadn't changed in freaking decades. Much of the new normal?
    True, that is why now is seen as a great time to raise it.

    Some policy experts believe that an increased tax is needed to fund and sustain the country's transportation infrastructure. The National Surface Transportation Infrastructure Financing Commission issued a detailed report[7] in February 2009

    An increased cost of fuel would also encourage less consumption. A growing fiscal and national security concern is America's dependence on foreign oil. Americans sent nearly $430 billion to other countries in 2008 for the cost of imported oil.
    Fuel taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Starting to Break Down California's Gas Tax: LAist

    Gasoline tax information - Texas Gas Prices

    Broken promises? Texas lawmakers fail to end gas tax diversions - Terri Hall

    Seven things you should know about gas taxes in 2010 | Pothole.info
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I'm sorry sly, but I don't play this game. It's really rather juvenile to use statement like "why can't you be honest".

    Here is the chart for 10 years. Note the trend. You're mistaken in your claims.

    gas 10 year average.jpg

    I'll run along. As I wrote, I don't do the scramble game.
    Yes, and like I said, the price of gas before the economic collapse is roughly the same as it is now. For the two years before the collapse, we average roughly what we have now. Like I said from the beginning.

    And what's juvenile is to take my statement where I have, many times, mentioned the average price before the collapse under Bush, and then not include those years in your chart, all so you can make a point and "be right" based on misrepresented information.

    The fact is I'm right. The chart you posted shows it.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Gas prices depends on Uncle Sam's actions in policing the rest of the world.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, and like I said, the price of gas before the economic collapse is roughly the same as it is now. For the two years before the collapse, we average roughly what we have now. Like I said from the beginning.

    And what's juvenile is to take my statement where I have, many times, mentioned the average price before the collapse under Bush, and then not include those years in your chart, all so you can make a point and "be right" based on misrepresented information.

    The fact is I'm right. The chart you posted shows it.
    You run with that sly. In fact, by looking at the chart, and your argument, you've proven the old adage that even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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