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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Right, which is why we need to invest in BOTH until alternative is a viable alternate. At this time it is not.
    no, we need a moonshot initiative to start transitioning and to innovate the next energy model. first step : expand our electrical grid significantly, both privately and publicly. this is a national security issue, and shouldn't just be left to the market to decide when it might be profitable to innovate. we should have taken it seriously in the 1970s. we absolutely must take it seriously now.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    There are a couple places near me under $3 but most places are around $3.15 for 87

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    no, we need a moonshot initiative to start transitioning and to innovate the next energy model. first step : expand our electrical grid significantly, both privately and publicly. this is a national security issue, and shouldn't just be left to the market to decide when it might be profitable to innovate. we should have taken it seriously in the 1970s. we absolutely must take it seriously now.
    Change "Moonshot" to "Moonshine" and you will get a lot more support.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    I can't say I necessarily feel your pain here, since most of Canada pays well in excess of $4.00 a US gallon equivalent and upwards of $5.00 and Canadians, by virtue of our geography, generally do a lot more driving than the average American needs to do.

    That said, the cost at the pumps in almost every jurisdiction has far less to do with OPEC or the open oil market and far more to do with government regulation and taxation in the various North American jurisdictions. If you don't like gas prices, blame your local government first.
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Change "Moonshot" to "Moonshine" and you will get a lot more support.
    unfortunately, ethanol is a piss poor replacement.

    however, i like the plan anyway.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I can't say I necessarily feel your pain here, since most of Canada pays well in excess of $4.00 a US gallon equivalent and upwards of $5.00 and Canadians, by virtue of our geography, generally do a lot more driving than the average American needs to do.

    That said, the cost at the pumps in almost every jurisdiction has far less to do with OPEC or the open oil market and far more to do with government regulation and taxation in the various North American jurisdictions. If you don't like gas prices, blame your local government first.
    Plus, Canada being the geographic size of the US but with a tenth the population, you are spread out a lot thinner (longer travel as you mention) and have less population to be customer base for the industry. Add to that your government provides more services which require more taxation.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I did. Here's what I found (spoiler alert: both prove you wrong):

    Obama Wanted Higher Gasoline Prices?
    The claim that won’t die: Did Obama want higher gas prices? - The Washington Post

    Now, obviously I didn't check all of the Internet. So feel free to source your claim Obama did. Thanks.

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    Yeah, you kind of did.

    I'm not blaming either, as I said. What I'm saying is there's much more of a realistic basis to blame the guy with the big oil buddies when gas prices rise $3 a gallon than it does to blame the guy who has seen gas prices remain mostly the same, regardless of how true either claim is.
    I think the guy who gets words applied like "who has seen gas prices remain mostly the same" is getting a pretty serious pass by those who have a partisan reason to do so.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    You guys are missing the point....Obama specifically predicted what he was going to do concerning energy, he projected that energy prices would "necessarily skyrocket".... Through tax, and increased regulations that is exactly what is happening, and instead of honest looking at this, the usual suspects are doing the usual thing, blaming Bush, using Bush as a comparison (even though Obama has seen the longest high price records ever), talking in liberal memes about the myth of peak oil, when we know that vast energy resource remains in the ground because we can't get the permits to drill....It's BS!

    I am spending $60 per week on gas for two vehicles to get my wife and I to work, and back. That's in a 4 week month $240.00. My electric for my house has risen in the past year from around $100.00 per month, to between $150.00 and $180.00. That works out to the kind of expendable cash that I can't spend in the economy on entertainment, goods, services, vacations, etc. Not to mention groceries (something I know a little about because I deliver some of what y'all buy at the grocery store) have risen as much as 30% to 40% from last year alone. This is due in no small measure to transportation costs.

    You greenies, where is the propane powered vehicles? Where are the cheaper alternatives? Obama sure did make it a point to give a lot of my tax money to these companies that were supposed to be developing these things, and now nothing? Except my tax money is gone, and more and more we are served up another story on how the millions, or billions given to a company like this that went belly up, was actually owned by another Obama crony....

    Where is Keystone? Where is the relief? Don't tell me how Bush this, and Bush that, Bush is gone damn it, this is OBAMA! And I am damned tired of being played by him and his disingenuous political bull!
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Plus, Canada being the geographic size of the US but with a tenth the population, you are spread out a lot thinner (longer travel as you mention) and have less population to be customer base for the industry. Add to that your government provides more services which require more taxation.
    It wouldn't bother me so much if the government would actually dedicate gas and other transportation related taxes to transportation infrastructure which is sorely in need of annual funding in huge amounts but doesn't get it.
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Man, I'm right there with you j-mac. Where ARE the propane powered vehicles? Why the hell are the hybrids all running gasoline instead of diesel that can use bio-diesel and/or SVO/WVO (grease) or even propane? Why is the majority of the heating on the East Coast still oil heating? Those units should have been converted long ago.

    Where are the cheap and highly efficient solar panels?

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