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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    The part where Obama wants gas prices to go up and the part where he has the unilateral power to push gas prices down.
    Obama has been quoted as such, do a Google search. And I didn't claim he had unilateral power to push gas prices down.
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    our energy model is almost as dumb as our health care model. if we don't replace it soon, the wars that our kids will have to fight for access to diminishing resources will become more and more catastrophic. as a side benefit, the actions we take will lead to more terror funded by oil. meanwhile, casino gambling on the price will continue to pull billions out of the economy that could be spent elsewhere, and everyone suffers.

    i like my gasoline powered vehicles, too, but this is a one hundred year old technology, and the costs aren't just the retail price. we can do better.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    In fairness, gas prices soared during Bush's presidency and have been fairly level during Obama's. Throw in the fact Bush's ties with oil companies, and it's not hard to see why people would blame Bush.

    I'm not saying it was Bush's fault. I think there were several factors which pushed gas prices higher and I'm not sure how much control a president really has over international oil prices. What I am saying is it makes much more sense to criticize Bush when gas prices rose over $3 a gallon (at its height) than it does to criticize Obama, who has seen gas prices remain roughly the same price throughout his presidency (excluding the time period when our country was reeling from the recession).
    It only makes sense to blame one and not the other when viewed through the lens of partisan ideology.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you're excusing the partisan hacks on blaming Obama because partisan hacks blamed Bush. Got it. Now, how does that solve anything again? Oh yeah, I forgot you don't care about that, just blame Obama.
    No, he's just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy in your post.
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The magic number seemed to be about $3.80/gallon, at that point people started to change their driving habits. Much of the new normal is due to tax increases on motor fuel, as vehicle MPG rises, that revenue stream falls.

    Gas Taxes Increase In Spite of Voters - Economic Intelligence (usnews.com)
    Gasoline tax hadn't changed in freaking decades. Much of the new normal?
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Obama has been quoted as such, do a Google search. And I didn't claim he had unilateral power to push gas prices down.
    He doesn't have unilateral power to push it up either.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    our energy model is almost as dumb as our health care model. if we don't replace it soon, the wars that our kids will have to fight for access to diminishing resources will become more and more catastrophic. as a side benefit, the actions we take will lead to more terror funded by oil. meanwhile, casino gambling on the price will continue to pull billions out of the economy that could be spent elsewhere, and everyone suffers.

    i like my gasoline powered vehicles, too, but this is a one hundred year old technology, and the costs aren't just the retail price. we can do better.
    Right, which is why we need to invest in BOTH until alternative is a viable alternate. At this time it is not.
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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you're excusing the partisan hacks on blaming Obama because partisan hacks blamed Bush. Got it. Now, how does that solve anything again? Oh yeah, I forgot you don't care about that, just blame Obama.
    Bush didn't set any records, Obama did. And Obama appears to have actually encouraged high gas prices

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Obama has been quoted as such, do a Google search.
    I did. Here's what I found (spoiler alert: both prove you wrong):

    Obama Wanted Higher Gasoline Prices?
    The claim that won’t die: Did Obama want higher gas prices? - The Washington Post

    Now, obviously I didn't check all of the Internet. So feel free to source your claim Obama did. Thanks.

    And I didn't claim he had unilateral power to push gas prices down.
    Umm...

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    He has the power to put in measures that would lower gas prices, but stubbornly chooses not to.
    Yeah, you kind of did.
    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It only makes sense to blame one and not the other when viewed through the lens of partisan ideology.
    I'm not blaming either, as I said. What I'm saying is there's much more of a realistic basis to blame the guy with the big oil buddies when gas prices rise $3 a gallon than it does to blame the guy who has seen gas prices remain mostly the same, regardless of how true either claim is.

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    Re: Gas prices set record: 1,000 days above $3 a gallon

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Gasoline tax hadn't changed in freaking decades. Much of the new normal?
    Perhaps the reference is to state gasoline taxes, which have certainly increased in many states, including California.

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