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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    He already has harmed the USA.
    The very fact that he is anti-gun in the States and yet freely gives guns to known terrorists IS harmful. And those are just the tip of the iceburg. US credibility was shot with Bush Jr and it has been even worse with Obama.



    You say that Obama has already harmed the USA, but you provide no proof of this.

    Your word and what you 'think' means nothing to me

    Therefore I will just ignore the worthless drivel that you have posted here.

    And, by the way, President Obama will be staying in the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017.

    Deal with it.

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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Being the President does not confer upon you any diplomatic or military capabilities.
    Presidents don't suit up and check the battlefield. They don't know who to pay and who to drone. They are guided by their Intelligence officials who come up with notions using thousands of people doing who knows what using some algorithm.

    The sad thing is that historically, most of what we do gets ****ed up. But then again, we won't know what they succeed at because its all secret stuff. So maybe the CIA has had hundreds of successes and we only know their failures.

    Now, is there any corporate influence at work here? Probably not much for a mini-war like this. So presumably the experts told Obama that arming whomever would be a good idea. Is it a good idea? Only time will tell.



    Being the President of the USA does make you the Commander-In-Chief of the U.S. Military.

    When voters decide who to vote for on election day, they should try to pick a person who has the ability to do the job, before he or she moves into the White House.
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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You say that Obama has already harmed the USA, but you provide no proof of this.
    Obama is providing weapons and training to Al-Qaeda. This has been presented repeatedly in a multitude of threads.

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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    MEK is an insurgent organization, not a terrorist organization.
    Then why was it listed as a terrorist org for 15 years?
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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    For a President(no matter which alphabet letter they carry) a to provide weapons or anything else to anyone requires money to purchase these items. Congress controls the spending in this country. So at least half of this blame game belongs to congress.
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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Obama is providing weapons and training to Al-Qaeda. This has been presented repeatedly in a multitude of threads.
    Here's the sick thing, partisans DO NOT CARE, party is more important than country. And here's the other deal. This country is being destroyed from within, both parties contributing to it, in the end there's not a dimes thickness difference between them, but like their football teams its rah rah donkey or rah rah elephant. It just sucks brother.

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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No, it is republican because that is the policy they have followed for a long time. We have these terrorists because reagan armed them and played a game there. We have things like iran contra. We have a history of selling arms under republican rule which will eventually come back and bite us. That history is based on american destabalization of foreign countries for political goals. It falls well within the lines of republican ideology. Still i am not saying dems are perfect. The republicans are right, they are nanny state people. Where as the republicans look for religious fascism in a sort of nanny state move, the dems are much more open about trying to be everyone's mother. From the soda ban to the recent attempt to put a waiting period on tattoos they have their own style of bad. There are lots of complaints about the left I agree with the republicans on. Welfare is a poverty trap. I do not agree we need to get rid of it, I think it clearly has a purpose of keeping people stuck on it and dependent on it which secures votes for the party that keeps it in place. But those are just examples and I am not trying to derail.

    Your claims that the only reason I say this is because i want to attack republicans is silly. obama is very right. He would clearly fall into the realm of socially moderate republican. A few years back before the reps pushed so far right they left their social moderates out in the cold I would not have said this. He would have been a fiscally conservative hawkish dem. But moderate dems have gone so far right they are within what should be the moderate side of republicanism if the reps were not chasing down the loonies and going hard core white wing stupid.
    So Democrats are as innocent as the driven snow huh? They never once approved any of it? Whether you like it or not the democrats are just as guilty as Obama and Bush and Regan and every other President and congress critter that has voted to arm terrorists.
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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    You say that Obama has already harmed the USA, but you provide no proof of this.
    The proof is available to anyone with open eyes.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Your word and what you 'think' means nothing to me
    Then why respond to me?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Therefore I will just ignore the worthless drivel that you have posted here.
    Go for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    And, by the way, President Obama will be staying in the White House until another Democrat takes his place in 2017.

    Deal with it.
    I don't care who is in the white house today or in 2017....as long as they are not a detriment to the US as a nation and its citizens.
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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    For a President(no matter which alphabet letter they carry) a to provide weapons or anything else to anyone requires money to purchase these items. Congress controls the spending in this country. So at least half of this blame game belongs to congress.
    Right, which bolsters the claim in #76. Some have correctly called it what it is, treason (by its exact definition) and yet we have two or three congressmen calling for impeachment. This is a BI-PARTISAN destruction of our country. What gets me most on this one is that the military (on this board as well) aren't blowing a gasket on this. I would think their would be mutiny in the ranks but no, by and large just yawns, and oh ok al Qaida that killed my buddies and blew off my legs is our ally now working with us to topple president Assad, the guy that Kerry, Clinton and Pelosi all previously said was someone we can work with!!!! I'm telling you, someone needs to take this countries temperature.

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    Re: Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I agree.

    If we don't have proof that will stand up in court maybe we shouldn't be going to war.
    And yet, Obama apparently wants to go to war? That is what his actions here have shown. Personally I thought that the object of attacking Syria, according to Obama anyways, was to stop its "use" of chemical weapons. And yet despite Syria saying that they will give control of their chemical weapons over to Russia if the US stopped arming terrorists, a peaceful way to difuse the situation, Obama has said that he will not stop. The only conclusion to this is that, once again, Obama has lied to American Citizens and to everyone on the national stage.

    If you don't think that doesn't harm US credibility then what does?
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