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    As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sinai

    After Egypt ejected the US backed government, the army has been fighting its war on terror too. Now the White House wants to install jihadist extremists in another country that is fighting their war on terror. It's not unclear that the White House is interested in destabilising the region, as they have been rightly accussed.


    While the eyes of the world are on Syria, Egypt's military is routing jihadists from the vast and lawless Sinai Peninsula -- and, according to some regional observers, showing the U.S. how to conduct a war on terrorists.
    Under orders from Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, the military leader governing Egypt since the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Morsi was ousted, the Egyptian military is stepping up the fight against the growing coalition of Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and other radical Muslims gathering in the massive desert peninsula. Although the jihadist activity in the Sinai could be as big a threat to regional stability as the civil war in Syria, Sisi's effort to confront terrorism at his doorstep comes without endorsement from the Obama administration, which has denounced the military takeover in Egypt.


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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Good for Egypt.

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    After Egypt ejected the US backed government, the army has been fighting its war on terror too. Now the White House wants to install jihadist extremists in another country that is fighting their war on terror. It's not unclear that the White House is interested in destabilising the region, as they have been rightly accussed.


    While the eyes of the world are on Syria, Egypt's military is routing jihadists from the vast and lawless Sinai Peninsula -- and, according to some regional observers, showing the U.S. how to conduct a war on terrorists.
    Under orders from Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, the military leader governing Egypt since the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohammed Morsi was ousted, the Egyptian military is stepping up the fight against the growing coalition of Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda and other radical Muslims gathering in the massive desert peninsula. Although the jihadist activity in the Sinai could be as big a threat to regional stability as the civil war in Syria, Sisi's effort to confront terrorism at his doorstep comes without endorsement from the Obama administration, which has denounced the military takeover in Egypt.


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    I wholly support Egypt's efforts to combat the extremists, particularly those who attempted to initiate a low-level armed uprising in the Sinai Peninsula. That the U.S. has hesitated at a time when it should be backing Egypt's transitional government has undermined the capacity of the U.S. to play a constructive role in an issue that, unlike in Syria, involves major American interests. The U.S. should be backing the transitional government as it tries to create a sustainable and stable governance structure under challenging circumstances.

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I wholly support Egypt's efforts to combat the extremists, particularly those who attempted to initiate a low-level armed uprising in the Sinai Peninsula. That the U.S. has hesitated at a time when it should be backing Egypt's transitional government has undermined the capacity of the U.S. to play a constructive role in an issue that, unlike in Syria, involves major American interests. The U.S. should be backing the transitional government as it tries to create a sustainable and stable governance structure under challenging circumstances.

    Correct, but the White Houses actions tend to prove that Putin is right, that the US is interested in destabilising the region.

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Thats because whats going on in Egypt is very different from Syria and isn't really threatening to spiral out of control. In fact one of my good friends just left for a 2 week holiday to the red sea.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Correct, but the White Houses actions tend to prove that Putin is right, that the US is interested in destabilising the region.
    I believe that the U.S. has been viewing the Mideast through its own ideals. It has seen movements as it desires them to be (consistent with its own ideals), not as they actually are. It has embraced the uprisings as broad popular movements seeking democracy, individual freedom, human rights, etc. That the uprisings have occurred or are occurring in states that are relatively authoritarian has reinforced the bias that they are democratic uprisings.

    The reality has been different. These have largely been sectarian uprisings for complex motives. Extreme elements have also exploited the instability for ends that have little to do with representative, tolerant, inclusive governance.

    The end result is that such uprisings have been destabilizing. Supporting the "Arab Spring" has encouraged instability. However, I am not aware of concrete evidence that the U.S. deliberately desires instability in an already highly volatile region.

    I do believe it has demonstrated some remarkable short-sightedness. Bahrain was one such area, where the U.S. has a strategic military base. Had the Shia toppled Bahrain's existing government the U.S. might have been confronted with a situation where it would have to give up its base or retain it against the wishes of the successor regime. Fortunately for the U.S., the Gulf Cooperation Council sent military forces to Bahrain to help the embattled government survive.

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Thats because whats going on in Egypt is very different from Syria and isn't really threatening to spiral out of control. In fact one of my good friends just left for a 2 week holiday to the red sea.
    Well that's true, at least at this point. But there are those here that would disagree with you on Syria, suggesting that there is no threat of it spiralling out of control.

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I believe that the U.S. has been viewing the Mideast through its own ideals. It has seen movements as it desires them to be (consistent with its own ideals), not as they actually are. It has embraced the uprisings as broad popular movements seeking democracy, individual freedom, human rights, etc. That the uprisings have occurred or are occurring in states that are relatively authoritarian has reinforced the bias that they are democratic uprisings.

    The reality has been different. These have largely been sectarian uprisings for complex motives. Extreme elements have also exploited the instability for ends that have little to do with representative, tolerant, inclusive governance.

    The end result is that such uprisings have been destabilizing. Supporting the "Arab Spring" has encouraged instability. However, I am not aware of concrete evidence that the U.S. deliberately desires instability in an already highly volatile region.
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    I do believe it has demonstrated some remarkable short-sightedness. Bahrain was one such area, where the U.S. has a strategic military base. Had the Shia toppled Bahrain's existing government the U.S. might have been confronted with a situation where it would have to give up its base or retain it against the wishes of the successor regime. Fortunately for the U.S., the Gulf Cooperation Council sent military forces to Bahrain to help the embattled government survive.
    I largely agree with all that except for the last comment. That comment proves the point that the US isn't interested in human rights, democratisation, or replacing authoritarian regimes, but gas, oil and protection of our bases and other "interests"

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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well that's true, at least at this point. But there are those here that would disagree with you on Syria, suggesting that there is no threat of it spiralling out of control.
    oh on Syria spiralled out of control a long time ago, I meant Egypt isnt going to spiral out of control anytime soon.
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    Re: As the world watches Syria, Egypt launches major campaign against jihadist in Sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    oh on Syria spiralled out of control a long time ago, I meant Egypt isnt going to spiral out of control anytime soon.
    Right. I understood you, and it would appear that you are correct with regards to Egypt, so long as the US doesn't decide to undermine their efforts to combat terrorists within their borders as the US is doing in Syria. But what I was trying to say to you about Syria is that there are those on this board that don't believe Syria has spiralled out of control yet or will should the US attack them.

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