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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

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    So, you don't need ANY evidence to believe rebels have those two specific types of rockets. You are willing to ignore the international observers who claim they do not.
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    It's possible that aliens gave the rebels those two types of rockets, but international observers say that rebels do not have those two types of rockets.
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    The UN report specifies the types of rockets used and the trajectories of those rockets.
    All I am saying is that there is evidence that both sides have SSMs. In regards to types of SSMs, they have not been specified.

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    It seems you really don't care about evidence and are just interested in "possibilities". Well, it's possible that aliens did it. Why not claim that?
    I do care about evidence and have presented it.


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    False, the report claims two specific types of rockets, which international observers claim rebels do not have.
    Not true. I stated that the specific types of rockets had not been released. All we know is that they are surface to surface rockets generally. You stated earlier in the thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We are talking about a specific type of rocket, which international observers say the rebels do not have.
    The information about that specific type of rocket has not been released. All we know is about SSMs generally.
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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    At the beginning of all this you were arguing that the UN inspectors were instructed not to work to determine who used chemical weapons but to just confirm the use, Eco!

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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

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    All I am saying is that there is evidence that both sides have SSMs. In regards to types of SSMs, they have not been specified.
    False.

    I stated that the specific types of rockets had not been released. All we know is that they are surface to surface rockets generally.
    False.

    The information about that specific type of rocket has not been released. All we know is about SSMs generally.
    False.

    While the report’s authors did not assign blame for the attack on the outskirts of Damascus, the details it documented included the large size and particular shape of the munitions and the precise direction from which two of them had been fired. Taken together, that information appeared to undercut arguments by President Bashar al-Assad of Syria that rebel forces, who are not known to possess such weapons or the training or ability to use them, had been responsible.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/wo...ions.html?_r=0

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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Another source to contradict your inaccuracies:




    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/wo...ions.html?_r=0


    The rockets used are not known to be possessed by the rebels. The rebels do not have the training or ability to use those rockets.

    Deal with it.
    I read the report and gave you a direct quote from the report. From what I read, the report only talked about SSMs generally. However, I will double check and look at the appendixes.
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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    At the beginning of all this you were arguing that the UN inspectors were instructed not to work to determine who used chemical weapons but to just confirm the use, Eco!
    They also confirmed the type of rocket, which the rebels do not posses and do not have the training and ability to use.

    They also confirmed the trajectories, coming from Assad controlled Damascus.

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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

    I showed you evidence that the rebels have SSMs generally, but of course, ignore it. I will show you again.

    Reported August 23, 2013:

    "The Free Syrian Army - as well as the Al-Qaeda affiliated al-Nusra Front and other groups - have also been using increasingly potent captured artillery. This has included Grad surface-to-surface rockets analysts say were vital to the Islamist-led push into Latakia." (Syria government, rebels ramp up conventional weapons use | Reuters)'


    Reported in July 2013:

    "These antiaircraft, antitank, and surface-to-surface weapons are in the hands of both the Free Syrian Army (FSA), which is considered relatively moderate, and the local and global Islamist forces, and are being used to combat aircraft, armored vehicles, and regime bases." (Syrian Rebels Developing Rocket, Missile Capabilities To Combat Aircraft, Tanks, And Ground Targets
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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They also confirmed the type of rocket, which the rebels do not posses and do not have the training and ability to use.

    They also confirmed the trajectories, coming from Assad controlled Damascus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Everybody knows this.

    The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

    It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.
    The report talked about SSMs generally, just look at that quote that I gave you from the report. Like I said, I will check the appendixes.
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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I showed you evidence that the rebels have SSMs generally, but of course, ignore it. I will show you again.
    I'm not ignoring it. Everybody knows rebels have some types of surface to surface rockets (missiles were not used in Damascus).

    The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

    It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.

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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They also confirmed the type of rocket, which the rebels do not posses and do not have the training and ability to use.

    They also confirmed the trajectories, coming from Assad controlled Damascus.
    What do you have to gain if the US attacks Syria as you clearly want to see happen?

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    Re: Syria: nearly half rebel fighters are jihadists or hardline Islamists

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Everybody knows this.

    The UN report specifies munitions (types of rockets) used in Damascus that the rebels are not known to have and that they do not have the training or ability to use.

    It also specifies the trajectories, from Assad controlled Damascus.
    And your still ignoring all the AP reports to the contrary.

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