"If your dumb gun control measures worked, the incident that we are discussing would never have happened. It doesn't work. Criminals don't follow laws genius."
to which you replied...
"Vance mack just sited material that asserts the exact opposite and you thanked him for it."
Gun control measures are NOT hving a desired impact. Passing MORE gun control measures would not have a greater impact. INCREASING SENTENCES on existing gun laws HAS been proven to have the desired impact.
So lets just be really clear. No 'new laws'. No 'new gun control measures'. Increased sentences for violation of existing laws. Now we are happy...right?
on what basis are you claiming it won't work any other way? You need to offer up more than "because I said so"Not going to work. Pass a universal sentencing law...ANYONE using a gun in the commission of a crime.
1) Uh, you and others claimed gun control has no impact on availability. i cited Japan because, among many other things, it proves you wrong. And during that discussion, I made clear pointing such out, in no way, indicates that I support such controlsYou want to claim the effectiveness and legacy of the changes in Japan...well...thats what did the trick.
2) Again, why do you think exactly mimicking Japanese legislation would be the only means of increased legislation that would reduce availability? You need to explain why if you want anyone to take you seriously, not simply assert it
I'm not getting what you are going on about and think you have yourself really agitated and confused at this point. Let's start from the beginning: What exactly is your argument?Gun control measures are NOT hving a desired impact. Passing MORE gun control measures would not have a greater impact. INCREASING SENTENCES on existing gun laws HAS been proven to have the desired impact.
I made clear I was supported increased sentencing when you first asked me about it.So lets just be really clear. No 'new laws'. No 'new gun control measures'. Increased sentences for violation of existing laws. Now we are happy...right?
Which is why i think you are confused about something
See...I think you are full of **** personally. I think you cant come right and say what you mean because at the end of the day, you are no different than tres goofus. You want more inane ineffective gun laws passed knowing full well they will never impact criminals...only law abiding citizens.
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