PolitiFact | Social media post says U.K. has far higher violent crime rate than U.S. does
Fact-Checking Ben Swann: Is the UK really 5 times more violent than the US? | The Skeptical Libertarian
PS I would probably hold off on calling chain emails "studies". The later suggests something of actual academic merit
<<<What Swann either doesn’t know, or simply doesn’t bother to tell his viewers, is that the definitions for “violent crime” are very different in the US and Britain, and the methodologies of the two statistics he cites are also different. (He probably simply doesn’t realize this: it appears that he lifted his data wholesale from a story in the Daily Mail, without checking it–something you might expect a fact checker to have done.)
First, it should be noted that the figures Swann gives are out of date: in 2010, according to the FBI, the reported rate of violent crime in the US was 403 incidents per 100,000 people–the 466 figure comes from 2007. Second, and more importantly, the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reports defines a “violent crime” as one of four specific offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault.
The British Home Office, by contrast, has a substantially different definition of violent crime. The British definition includes all “crimes against the person,” including simple assaults, all robberies, and all “sexual offenses,” as opposed to the FBI, which only counts aggravated assaults and “forcible rapes.”>>>
I just outlined how drugs are different than guns. You are free to disagree with that argument, but to be effective you will need to actually address it, not simply dismiss and ignore itThe drug ban is evidence of that reality.
You said this before, but presented no evidence to support it, and I cited the lack of significant gun crime to undermine it. So one of us made a convincing argument, but it wasn't youIts simply stupid beyond words to pretend that violent criminals would NOT find a way to import guns, right in that crate next to the one marked "crack". Japan has very restrictive gun laws and stiff penalties for illegal gun ownership. You know who has no problem procuring illegal firearms in Japan? Their gangs.
And that same question should be asked of people like you.
1) registration of weapons
2) waiting periods
3) limitations on how many weapons you can own or buy
4) restrictions on magazine capacity or operation (ie semi auto or full auto)
5) the NFA and the Hughes Amendment
6) special (ie in addition to normal sales taxes) taxes on ammo or guns
7) gun free zones in general
8) insurance requirements on gun owners
so tell me what you approve of
Being pro gun doesn't mean I need to support every moronic argument made by a gun advocate.I find it interesting that this forum is full of people who want to whine about pro gun posters and posts and then pretend they aren't anti gun.